On July 18, 2022, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attended the 2020 UN Nelson Mandela Award ceremony at the United Nations in New York. The Duke delivered a keynote speech on Nelson Mandela International Day. The 2020 Prize is awarded to Marianna Vardinoyannis of Greece and Dr. Morissanda Kouyate of Guinea. The prize, which is given every five years, recognises people who have dedicated their lives to the service of humanity.
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I thought these two did not wanted a private life? I like the purple blouse. Allie
ReplyDeleteThat’s what I thought too. Wasn’t that one main reason for the move….
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@Allie : When you talk about "these two", I'm taking a guess and assuming that you are talking about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
DeleteSome thoughts..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FwQ0ukjQF0
DeleteYou are serious?It is your smart comment?
DeleteSorry dead eggs but they are Harry and Meghan Mountbatten here. While they are connected by family, they are not representing anything or anyone royal, rather went anti-royal in content and tone. In fact his speech failed to even stay focused on Mandela and given the subsequent coverage is all about him/them criticizing others (in very odd ways) once again. An opportunity missed to focus on celebrating and learning more about an amazing man or educating specific ways the Nelson Mandela Foundation, Sentebale or World Central Kitchen are helping or need specific greater help.
DeleteOn the fashion front, it’s a usual outing for Meghan. Great outfit/color combo. Her hair and makeup look lovely but yet again a glaring problem. In this case the undergarment fail of her “headlights” (sadly very obvious in most pictures, here in pic 6) and panty lines. Either that or a size slightly larger tailored down in the right places would have at least helped the skirt.
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Nonetheless @Glo they remain the Duke and Duchess of Sussex - those are their titles and they remain entitled to use them.
DeleteTrue enough anon 16:46 but we are not all obligated to use them. Anon 20:29 has every right to say “these two”.
DeleteAs a side note I will say that when they use their entitied titles from an institution they have both claimed publicly harbors racism and drove her to suicidal thoughts it seems to undermine their statements and creates a real hypocrisy. Even the Duke of Windsor did not publicly go that far however horrible his sentiments in private. Until they can explain that,- imho-they continue to undermine their credibility and to some extent the monarchy merching their titles.
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Kudos @Merriam Oxford.
DeleteStop repeating the same nonsense over and over again. Here it is not about their private life but about their charitable actions.
Delete@Anomymous 19/7/22 16:46 But I thought they agreed not to use them.
DeleteNo, @LilyBart they agreed not to use the HRH to distance themselves from the Royal bit.
DeleteSimply chic. -Siri
ReplyDeleteSmiling in every photo, even when everyone else is not.
ReplyDeleteRavie de voir Meghan et Harry.
DeleteTrès beau couple
Meghan:Sobre et chic.
Elle sourit car elle est heureuse.
Good for her for smiling in every picture, it beats looking grumpy. In pic #9 Harry looks like he was very tired. Meghan seems to be looking at the photographer who came close to them to take pictures. It looks like she was acknowledging their presence which was very nice of her. People around her seem attracted to her. Smiling is infectious and we need more of it out there. I love it. She seems comfortable in her skin and very approachable.
DeleteIf she wasn't smiling, she would be accused of sulking. Meghan is not exactly my favorite, but people sometimes are unreasonable where she is concerned imo.
DeleteThis is a very chic look from the Duchess, suits her well.
ReplyDeleteLike the Black dress, she is smiling but it is not the usual "Look at me smile" I wonder why, maybe a bit nervous for a Mr Tom Bower
ReplyDeleteWhy? They asked for a private life, yet keep soliciting invites to these things.
ReplyDeleteAnd Meghan Markle has a tendency to smile at times where nobody around her is smiling. It’s out of placeS I’ve never seen her face “resting”.
Kate a le même comportement.
DeleteElle sourit en permanence.
I disagree with both of you. Catherine doesn't smile permanently @Valentine and neither does Meghan.
DeleteAnd why do you always have to turn everything into some kind of pathetic competition @Valentine?
Meghan's looking very good. Happy for them both.
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Good choice of outfit. Simple and elegant.
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Agreed. Perfect for the occasion.
DeleteA very chic, simple look for Meghan. (V.M.)
ReplyDeleteElegant, I listened to Harry speak for a while, until I had enough. Some of the things would have been better spoken at a different forum not this one. This was in memory of a great man Nelson Mandela. Not the World being on fire as he put it.josebabe
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about his speech. I thought he would speak more about Mandela and perhaps the award winner, who demonstrate, through their studies and community involvement, a commitment of promoting peace, justice, citizenship and human rights. He went way off topic. I wonder who wrote the speech.
DeleteImportant speech - well done Prince Harry.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful couple and family.
What was important about his speech
DeleteYou will not find a general position on the speech below. PH has re. Nelson Mandela for listeners (goal: gaining knowledge for EVERYONE) critically and constructively with regard to present significance and future significance, i.e. a complex reflection on the problem. Complex and in connection with our present, a stringent line of thought is clearly recognizable. Because PH repeatedly takes up the fact that Mandela (also to do Mandela justice) had different inner attitudes of resistance to apartheid (racism). It is important to PH that Mandela defined resistance against apartheid not just as an attitude, but as an action that grew out of it and aimed at bringing about the end of the regime or contributing to it for ethical, political, religious, social or individual motives. PH makes it clear how enormous the risks and dangers are for those who fight back.
DeletePh speaks particularly appreciatively about Mandela and also very well reasoned and continued.
She looks fantastic...hair, makeup, little black Givenchy dress=pitch perfect!
ReplyDeleteWhat can you say; black and blue. What was it about Harry? (Tara)
ReplyDeleteChe differenza c’è tra partecipare ad un evento negli USA piuttosto che nel Regno Unito?
ReplyDeleteUn gran peccato averli “persi” così, soprattutto Harry.
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THEY ARE NOT ROYALS ANYMORE. THEY CHOSE TO STEP AWAY.
ReplyDeleteOMG, back to this point again. It's becoming a very boring subject.
DeleteAny comment on fashion?
Perhaps we could change this boring subject of "they are not royals anymore" to something more interesting like " Prince Harry is not British anymore" because, in America, he now eats sugar pop cornflakes and not porridge :-))
DeleteI agree with Sharni!!
DeleteBut Sharni's wrong Mary. They are still royals, they just don't work for the BRF or use the HRH. And they didn't say they wouldn't lead a public life.
Delete@Sharni Why are you SHOUTING out misinformation? They wanted a more quiet life with their new family, not a private life. Many decisions were made for them--fulltime royal or nothing. There you have it.
DeleteSharni's not wrong and I agree with her.
DeleteSharni is wrong Mary and if you agree with her...
DeleteThen I'm right!! LOL.
DeleteWell dressed actress playing in Suits.
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And Grace Kelly played an excellent role as Princess of Monaco
Delete@deadeggs. But Grace stay with it and completed her role, even thought it wasn't a bed of roses.
Delete@LilyBart No one compared Princess Grace's baby to a monkey. If that had happened, I'll bet the House of Grimaldi would have spoken out, condemning such comments. The BRF chose to remain silent, essentially signaling racist commentary would be tolerated. The House of Windsor has a lot to be ashamed of. They are not innocent in this.
DeleteNe vous déplaise elle n'est plus actrice elle l'a été.
ReplyDeleteEn épousant le petit fils de la reine elle est à ce jour duchesse de Sussex.
You misunderstood me: I meant she is acting all the time and looking for the camera.
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Valentine, vous avez raison. En epousant Prince Harry, Megan est elle-meme princesse pour la vie!
DeleteNe vous déplaise elle n'est plus actrice elle l'a été.
ReplyDeleteEn épousant le petit fils de la reine elle est à ce jour duchesse de Sussex.
Vêtue sobre mais chic même si le haut aurait été mieux dans la couleur moutarde comme sur le mannequin ; j'aime beaucoup son sac à mains que je verrais bien dans ma collection qui n'est pas assez complète hi, hi !!
ReplyDeleteStop the pointless criticism. If you don't like them keep scrolling. Don't read and comment. They participate on what they feel important and that is fully allowed. Both look great. I want Meghans outfit!
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DeleteStop the censorship - if the blog moderator is happy to accept the comments then don't read them if you don't like them. Take your own advice and keep scrolling.
Delete@Sharni:
ReplyDeleteNon sono più reali, ma hanno un titolo nobiliare ed Harry è un principe per sempre ed il piccolo Archie, quando Carlo sarà re, diverrà principe.
“Normali” non lo saranno mai.
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Meghan Markle is such an elegant and stylish lady. She is beautifully groomed. No need of jewellery, just a bracelet.
ReplyDeleteSimply and elegant.
ReplyDeleteI still prefer Meghan with a messy updo, a few loose hair locks and her hair parted at the side.
ReplyDeleteThese tight ponytails don't suit her face in my opinion. Pity, because she's really quite pretty!
In pic #9 Harry looks lost, I don’t think he realized what a privileged life he led, privileged in the sense of position he held as a member of the royal family, both as “royal” and as “family”, and with duties to perform that had a positive impact. After the close relationship he had with his brother, to be cast adrift 10,000 miles away and to become anonymous, he seems to have lost his sense of purpose. I feel sorry for him, what does his future hold? A playboy lifestyle. I think his drastic actions were a cry for help, he was too immature to accept compromise. So many parallels with the Duke of Windsor. All speculation of course.
ReplyDeleteHe was born a royal and will always be a royal, and they will always be Duke and Duchess of Sussex. As such, it is appropriate to cover them on this blog. Not every royal on this blog “works”, or officially represents a country.
Fashion wise Meghan is dressed in her favored style, which looks good on her, although all black is perhaps a bit somber, and isn’t New York experiencing a heat wave? Harry has lost some of his sartorial sharpness, guess he no longer has a valet to accompany him. S.M.
Harry is happy with his wife and two children. He is finally free to do what he wants and to go where he wants. The Royals are nothing but hypocrites and jealous of the Sussex couple
DeleteI think Harry knows all too well what a privileged life he led, and I don't think he really ever wanted it. By all reports, he was his happiest serving his country in the armed forces side by side other soldiers. He saw what the royal life did to his mother, making her prey for paparazzi. It is not normal for a child to be born and never have any say in how he/she will live their lives. You are born an heir to the throne, therefore you must be dress this way, be educated here, do these things, know these people, and this will be your career as an adult. Never mind any plans, interests or ideas you may have. If they don't fit into the predestined plans set in stone at your birth, you will have to abandon them. Your duty will always come before your happiness and family. I think Harry is very much of his position.
DeleteThe difference between William and Harry is their roles from birth, in my opinion. William was treated like the future king and Harry was not. I think he was allowed freedom, in a sense, while still knowing his obligations to his family. I think he felt more like a partner to William, not just because of their closeness in age but because bonds tighten between siblings who lose a parent in childhood. Without getting into his marriage, when Harry decided to take a different path for his family, I think the "firm" refused to accept any compromise. That is where we differ, S.M. I don't know what compromise was offered. I think Harry felt triggered because of his childhood, Meghan was not treated well in the press (racial slurs go beyond what anyone should have ignore) and he had no backup from the palace. I suspect William was not as accepting of Harry's marriage because he thought Harry would always be there by his side, and things changed very quickly, leaving William a little rattled. Wanting to protect his wife and child is understandable. Not feeling family support gives him no incentive to stay. Working part time all feels in line with paring down the monarchy as well, which is what Charles wants to do. I understand it breaks with tradition, etc., but I never had the feeling it was going to be a permanent situation. Of course I could be wrong. I have always felt making Harry be a fulltime royal or nothing at all was punitive. Taking his military duties from him seemed to me the harshest punishment, especially when members of the family that have never served in the military are now assuming these roles left vacant by Philip and Harry. Lastly, other countries with royal families can have family members living abroad and they come home to participate on a part time basis. Why can't the UK?
My final comment is that Harry has hardly become anonymous, or lost his sense of purpose, and he is most certainly not living a playboy lifestyle. If he seems anonymous, maybe he is finally getting some of the privacy he wanted for his family. He wanted to be able to have some control over how often they made public appearances and not having a daily news update on the number of diapers in their trash must be a relief. I think he knows his purpose. He wants to continue his mother's work, at least in part. He has the Invictus Games. There are new opportunities he will explore. To be financially independent, things are going to take on a different look. He has acquired a very specialized skillset, so he has to work with what he has. He was never trained to do anything but be a royal or be in the military. He is carving out a new life, and time will tell. I didn't get the feeling that he was terribly welcome back in the UK, which is a shame. He has no choice but to make it work in the US. As for living the life of a playboy, well, maybe we have different definitions. He is a father and husband, not single and ready to mingle. I don't know where that came from. If he was ever living that life, it would be all over the papers, I can assure you. I agree with most everything else you wrote. I love Meghan's outfit, and black is not a concern to me. She's in New York, indoors. It works.
I don't think the royals are remotely jealous of Harry and Meghan and they are no more hypocritical than the couple themselves.
DeleteGood luck to them in making their way independently and having a private life for their family.
However badly they were treated by sections of the press I still don't think they handled their exit especially well - there was a tremendous amount of goodwill towards them from the British public which unfortunately is now gone.
@An 7:02 difficult to believe other royals are jealous about them !
DeleteMeghan looks very elegant but I personally find her outfit a little "wintry" and dark for the summer months. Possibly because I'm absolutely melting at the moment!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why she can't get clothes that fit properly. Obviously she can afford nice clothes, so get them to fit or get them tailored. They are always so bunched up. This is a chic look, but ruined by the fit.
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Ils sont chics et élégants. Beau discours d'Harry.
ReplyDeleteCute couple. They are elegant and charismatic
ReplyDeleteMagnificent couple.
ReplyDeleteMy God, she has aged a lot in the last few years. I thought happiness makes you beautiful? That tight braid is not doing her any favours. It makes her face even rounder. Dressed like a businesswoman, so everything quite normal too. Frieda
ReplyDeleteThat's a ponytail, not braid
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@Frieda, it makes sense for her appearance to appear more aged, she has moved from one decade (30s) to the next (40s). Most people appear noticeably different from one decade to the next. But she still looks good in my humble opinion.
DeleteI think a side part, as opposed to the middle part, would have been much better. But then again I just like side parts in general.
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Anonymous @16:23, I think your definition of playboy is way off in this case. We don’t see Harry leading a life of partying, spending summers on a luxury yacht around the Mediterranean, going out with multiple women and generally doing the thing that playboys do.
ReplyDeleteFor the ones talking about privacy is a moot point to explain what the word means, in this case shielding their children from the awful yellow press, and not being able to step outside without paparazzi following them, now they choose where and when they want to go. As for how they earn their living, well… it’s their choice, they aren’t stealing or milking the crown, so there!,
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With all due respect @Cherry I would argue that they are milking the Crown for all it's worth - it's the very connection to the BRF that gives them the profile they have and allows them to make connections and produce the content for their various portfolios.
DeleteAgree with you about their decision to protect their children and they have every right to choose where and how they live.
@Anon 02:24 What I believe Cherry meant by "milking the crown" is taking taxpayer's money to live a life of privilege. No matter how you feel about them, you can't be mad about that. The past few "spares" have been spoiled brats with terrible reputations and neither would never have walked away from the money or their titles. It shocks me that such a firm stand was taken with Harry when HM still coddles and shelters Andrew from the consequences of his poor/illegal behavior (as an alleged pedo) and turned a blind eye to Margaret's rebellious nature and wild party girl reputation, and later alleged affairs and divorce, at a time when a proper, well brought up young lady did not behave in such a way. Both behaved in ways that have been terribly damaging to the image of BRF. Maybe focusing more attention on the Andrew situation would have been time better spent for all concerned, and giving more consideration to a compromise with Harry, part of the future of the monarchy, would have made more sense. If nothing else, they still would have been money ahead, as Harry still wanted to be financially independent as much as possible.
DeleteAnon 09:10- I do wholeheartedly agree with you about appalling behavior in light of those privileged. Andrew’s removal (notice he does no public events) and Margaret’s protection in a different press era are great examples. It is embezzlement to take public monies for one reason and use them for another. If the monarchy is found to do this - yes Charles those suitcases of Saudi cash deserve(d) public scrutiny- it will be its downfall. Harry and Megan wanted something that doesn’t exist, it’s non-existence is for very good reason. A clean break from “the firm” to go do whatever they like gives them the freedom to do so, and was perfectly understandable. However they did not do that rather attacking the monarchy while whining about Charles not financially supporting them and also trying to still use those royal strings for their own enrichment/celebrity. (Even this NY trip was paid for by the people of South Africa and it is not going down well for the Ambassador who arranged it.) They are still trying to have it both ways and the monarchy as a public/government/private entity has got to show a strong barrier to that kind of “grift” which would be called “graft” given their UK/Commonwealth position. They need to commit to the lane they’ve chosen (since the other is not an option) and until they do they will continue the controversy.
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The Duchess' clean simple lines, statement handbag ponytail are elegant and leaves the focus on PH and his speech.
ReplyDeleteSadly, critical thinking and relating the comment to the topic proferred.tells its own story, of a willingness to repeat the fabrications and half truths of the gossip press who never give names of 'sources'.
At no point did 'these two' declare that they were retiring to a hermitage.
These are tax paying people who do not take money from their former employers to cut ribbons and are entitled to eat in restaurants, go to ballgames, play a sport, have house parties, visit frieds, shop in stores and take vacations just like the rest of us without desperate cameramen trying to get a picture to sell.
Like the rest of us they have chosen a line of work that satisfies them. What they have objected to is sharing their private life (away from work) with people who use them to write stories to earn their salaries and for the looky loos who think hospital pictures and names of godparents are their right to know.
They are rarely seen in public, and when they are, they are usually minding their own business. They do not engage with certain news outlets, but stories are still written for those who cannot filter information and ask why do we need to know? After all they are free to live as they choose, 'ignored' by the others...
. The title of Duke/Duchess were gifted to them on their wedding by the Queen. They have been accused of 'insulting' the queen for any number of reasons, but refusing this gift would not be a slap?
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As Harry mentioned in his speech, "in spite of all the indignity and cruelty heaped on Mr. Mandela he always kept a smile on his face". Meghan cannot smile for the the cameras if we believe @vanessa.
It is amazing how many people go to battle over who is or is not royal, defending a social structure that will always keep them on the lowest rung while their hard earned money flows to the top rung to support a lifestyle they will never have..
.Merriam Oxford.
What charity, the people of South Africa through the Ambassador paid for their trip to NY for this speech.
DeleteDear Merriam Oxford, kudos for a well balanced comment, you're spot on. I'm sure a voice of reason such as yours is greatly appreciated by a silent majority. The amount of negativity directed at the Sussexes for no other reason than leading their life, is beyond belief. Again, thank you. Best wishes Rina
DeleteHer Royal Highness (title not used but still hers), the Duchess of Sussex, is supremely elegant here. I agree with poster above who noted that her outfit is chic but does not detract from Prince Harry’s well written and well spoken address. The hatred heaped on this intelligent, well educated and caring woman is shameful and will be judged harshly by time. It is a pleasure to see them in a suitable venue for their enlightened views.
ReplyDeleteMerci pour votre commentaire.
DeleteWhilst I agree with quite a lot of their enlightened views they are very much of the old school "don't do as I do, do as I say" approach. They have a lot of valid points to make which are not consistently followed up by their actions.
DeleteAs to the suitable venue that's all it was - a venue - this was not a key note official UN event. And we will have to disagree on Harry's speech - I didn't see much relevance to the occasion at all.
It's not hatred - not on my part anyway - I think it's such a shame the way things turned out the way they did. But good luck to them.
@Valentine, making statements such as "don't do as I do" in terms of the couple's philosophy is vague, but let us assume (to the tune of the first bars of We will rock you by Queen) private jet, private jet, private jet, is your topic. Here are two sides to this coin.
DeleteRealizing that the couple were having a bad time with the unflattering daily newspaper stories, Elton John sent his private plane to take them to France for a vacation. The baby was about 3 months old. Elton explained that he had purchased carbon credits to cover the emissions for the trip. If you do not know what that means, please educate yourself. Ignorance is not glamorous by any means neither is refusing to absorb new knowledge. Environmentally conscious people purchase credits when they fly.
Secondly, most royals move under the radar when they travel for vacations. This smaller plane would have landed away from larger airports. Yet, camera men were there to take pictures for the disparaging 'eco warrior' headlines. It is reasonable to assume that whoever had their passports knew they were travelling and told the photogs exactly where and what time they would be there.
If these people live behind walls and do not speak to the press, who gives them information and for what purpose.
A little critical thinking, please!!
MO
@MO - buying carbon credits does not offset the damage done to environment. I don't need to educate myself - it's essentially the equivalent of going to confession and then carrying on with the behaviour that leads to going to confession. I wasn't talking about Elton John or indeed private jets (3x) in particular but Harry and Meghan have taken 21 private jet flights over a 2 year period - absolutely their choice but don't lecture others on caring for the environment.
DeleteI have no skin in this by the way - they have chosen their life and what they feel is best for them and their family and I'm not one of those who thinks their decision means they should never appear in public again. But I don't have to agree (or disagree) with everything they do or say. I'm adult enough to know there are plenty of shades of gray.
And please don't accuse me of lacking critical thinking. You don't know me from a short comment I made on this blog.
Also, I'm not Valentine who was agreeing with the original comment - so you're scolding was directed at the wrong person.
@14:39 When the future kings spoke at COP 26 they gave 'speeches '. When Harry spoke at Travalyst he gave a 'iecture'. ..just the kind of wordplay relished by a certain sector. How did they all arrive at these locations?? and remember, the topic was the environment. Do some get a free pass? Hypocrisy is alive and well.
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@MO - people need to travel, they choose the method. You're still assuming I was only referring to private jets - you brought that up not me. But since you've decided that's all I was talking about , I do think using private jets as the preferred method of travel whilst banging on about the environment is a touch hypocritical - from the Sussexes, Leonardo di Caprio, Prince Albert of Monaco etc.
DeleteI don't know who the future kings are - do you mean the Cambridges? Prince Charles? Yes, they gave speeches - were they hypocritical? Dunno - didn't pay attention. Also, not sure how they got there - don't think it was private jet. But you know, just to be even, I think they should also look at travel arrangements- taking a helicopter to go to Norfolk from London is ridiculous for so many reasons.
You make a good point about language and words chosen. But I do think there is slight whiff of the sanctimonious about the Sussexes on occasion so happy to stick to my choice of "lecture" in this instance.
If you think that I'm being hypocritical so be it. 🤷♀️
@22:26 You know very well that they future kings C and W are environmentalists only in name. Calling out other people is a diversionary as in "nothing to see here...look over there" At the very least., Di Caprio and others donate money to help reforestation efforts. Flying to Norfolk is 'ridiculous' but flying in smaller planes is 'hypocrital' another worldplay to describe the same behavior. ..but let's be harsher on Harry. ..and let's defend the indefensible by saying ..How do they get around? I dunno..
DeleteAre we being hypocritical ...dunno, but to qoute Bob Marley "Who the cap fit, let them wear it."
Oh good grief - what are you? A frigging linguistician? To be clear I think H and M AND W and C are both hypocritical and ridiculous! And you're the one who brought up both private jets and the "future" kings - Catherine (as you're so very interested in words) can never be a king. And they may be "environmentalists in name only" (not quite sure why you think I know something very well) -but they still have a duty to lead by example and offer value for money - more so than the Sussexes who are private citizens earning their own money.
DeleteAnd calling other people out isn't diversionary- it was my way of illustrating to you that I have the same thoughts about the other great environmental warriors - and just to spell it out to you, no that doesn't mean I think they're terrible people or even that they shouldn't be trying to do their bit to shine a light on the environmental issues. And hurray for the donations -never said they did nothing - you, again, are putting your assumptions onto me. Everyone (as in all human beings - just in case you analyse that as not including certain people) make compromises to live their lives - like getting planes to go to conferences on the environment- pragmatism is fine.
Have no idea whether you're being hypocritical - try Bob Marley's cap on see what you think.
To begin, C, the next future king is Charles, yes, Charles! not Catherine who will be a consort. That is what the line of succession demands, barring an unfortunate incident.
DeleteAdults come with a certain amount of experiential knowledge to know that if something does not happen in their line of sight, that does not mean that it did not happen. Saying dunno to how they arrived at COP26 while being absolutely certain that Harry took 21 private flights in whatever period of time, which were most likely out of your line of sight is disingenuous, reeks of .... we will let Mr. Marley doff his cap to you for this one. Does H as a private citizen warrant more scrutiny than who do the same thing?
Had Harry stayed in his 'place' walking behind the Windsors with a perpetual smile, living as they do, all would have been well. Another doff of the cap.
Finally, if this argument was not aimed at you to begin with, why the vehemence, so much so that others have to be brought down to the level of climate hypocrites? The current weather patterns are proving them right. Maybe if we close our eyes, do nothing, and trash these people at every turn it will all go away.
Be clearer then and say Charles - saying C and W is misleading.
DeleteSaid dunno because... guess what... no idea how they got there. Didn't pay much attention at the time because other things going on. I do know about the helicopter to Norfolk which I offered as my counterpoint - but hey, ignore anything that doesn't suit your argument. I know about the 21 private jets because I noted it down in my 50 things to hold against the Sussexes notebook/read it in a newspaper recently.
Good point about Harry being a private citizen - thing is his presence for his speech (hope the vocabulary pleases you) meant he has appeared on this blog where people discuss him. And just to be clear (because I obviously haven't said it clearly enough before) I have no problem with the Sussexes stepping away from the BRF - it didn't suit them - although I am not particularly convinced by the way they did so- JMO. So undoff that cap because you're making a huge mountain of assumptions there. Just because I take issue with certain things that people do makes me neither hater nor hypocrite - there is nuance.
At no point did I say there is no environmental problem nor that we should close our eyes to the quite obvious problems. Nor did I say that people shouldn't speak about them -and I also said that people need to make pragmatic decisions. I have already explained why i mentioned the others - first you said I was being diversionary and now I'm some sort of climate change denier - was just making the point that I don't think the Sussexes are alone. I still think that nowadays optics count for a lot - that was the point I was trying to make.
This argument was aimed at me - it was just addressed to the wrong person ie. Valentine, who did nothing but agree with the original commenter.
I'll let you decide on why you find my replies so vehement.
I have no problem with the Sussexes stepping away from the BRF - it didn't suit them - although I am not particularly convinced by the way they did so- JMO.
DeleteThis is the real heart of the matter.
How they left is none of our. business. Stop peering into the window of his life to find things to criticize. He left. let it go! Time will tell if he rises or falls. Either wish him well or get out of the way with the repetition of destructive gossip. That is what decent people do.
You have made a lot of concessions in those vehement responses.
Thank you.
Farewell et bonne chance.
Vanessa
Sigh.
DeleteFrom the comments I read here, Harry and Meghan are still, on the one hand, considered as the bad guys and on the other hand, more comments sound better and in their favor than in the beginning. The last time they were in the U.K. the media wrote that the Queen was so happy to see her great grandchildren Archie and Lilibeth. However 1 private picture with Lilibeth was not allowed. Who decided this ? They say it was the queen herself. I cannot believe that. If at her age you have a one year old great grandchild that you see for the 1st time, it is more than normal you wish to have at least a picture with that child. I was ashamed in the place of the BRF how they treated Harry and Meghan by allowing them at the ceremony in the church but for every other reception or gathering with the family they where excluded. I read also that Prince Charles was very emotional to see his grandchildren. All this information is full of contradictions. I think if the BRF continue to act like this, more and more actions will finally turn against them. Or the media spread lies or the BRF (or a part of it) are hypocrites. (I'm not British).
ReplyDeleteThe issue was not if but who took the pictures- for the copyright and distribution. The Queen’s maintained controlling the documented the private moment rather than the photographer the Sussexes wanted to bring. I am sure many were taken to treasure- as a family moment.
DeleteCan´t agree more.
DeleteO dear, donot read ( and believe and jump to conclusions) all this made-up stories!
DeleteMabel
And that's just it - nobody knows what the BRF are doing/thinking so perhaps stop basing your judgements on a lot of speculation and unsubstantiated gossip.
DeleteLet's see what happens when Harry's book comes out - I think that is going to be the make or break moment.
Its a fashion blog everyone. You can debate their preachings in other forums, lol....no need to go after each other. pat
ReplyDeleteyou can say/write anything but meghan is a chic elegant woman ha ha!!!
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