The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have confirmed to the Queen that they won't return to royal duties as working members of the Royal family. By this decision, they will relinquish their military appointments and other patronages. After this decision, Queen Elizabeth has formally relinquished the Duke and Duchess of Sussex of their honorary military appointments and Royal Patronages.
Buckingham Palace made a statement on Friday afternoon, in which a spokesperson said: "The honorary military appointments and Royal patronages held by The Duke and Duchess will therefore be returned to Her Majesty, before being redistributed among working members of The Royal Family." In the statement, it is also confirmed that The Queen has asked the Duke and Duchess to relinquish their military appointments and patronages.
The military, Commonwealth and charitable associations which will revert to the Queen are as the following: the Royal Marines, RAF Honington, Royal Navy Small Ships and Diving, The Queen's Commonwealth Trust, The Rugby Football Union, The Rugby Football League, The Royal National Theatre and the Association of Commonwealth Universities. However, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be able to retain their private patronages such as WellChild and the Invictus Games.
As it should be...a good decision for all involved. The Sussex family can now enjoy life as they want and deserve. Ann B
ReplyDeleteThey aren't the Sussex family ;they will probably become the Mountbatten -Windsor's. You need to look at the Dukedom of Sussex on Wikepedia; to understand the title.Titles can be an odd thing as if they are associated with some type of occurrence they may never appear again.I thought they said they didn't want the spot light;they should sail quietly into the night, before they become a laughing stock.(Tara)
DeleteThey would rather make money from their Royal British titles rather than serve the British people (signing $100M deals with Netflix, Spotify!)
ReplyDeleteNo shame!
jean
I do think think that we cannot blame Harry & Meghan because of the interest in them still considering that Prince Harry was the most popular royal in his time as a working royal. If companies like Netflix, etc. seizes on their popularity it is hard to blame them for taking advantage of that. After all his Mother Princess Diana was still considered "The Peoples Princess" after she stepped down as a royal and in death too! HM
DeleteTotally agreed.
DeleteM.
I agree with you Jean, shameless celebrities now. I've lost my respect for him. But everyone has a right to their opinion.
DeleteChel
100% Agree with Anonymous2/19/21, 11:01 PM.
DeleteWithout a supporting family .. and really with the Cambridges and..exceptionelle Queen Elisabeth ll it is just not possible to be happy just one day. No one needs a bashing family, this would be suicide of souls. Furthermore Meghan, as ohne said, is an activist and the BRF looks back 2000 years. Activists and Royals, there is no bond possible.
All the best to the sunshine Family✨
hannah
Netflix made a series about Princess Diana and her marriage. I wouldn't sign a one dollar contract with anyone who does such a disrespectful thing to my parents. Meghan made a great job, tore Henry apart from his family. Just look how Wallis Simpson and Edward ended.
DeleteIt's fine if that's what they wanted and I hope the media let them be, as it's their privacy wish. But what I observed in their actions and words carry a passive aggriveness tone and give an impression of bitterness- eg. That the queen doesn't own the word royal, that service is universal, and announce megxit online as well as Oprah interview, prior to official ends of year review in March. Lily
ReplyDeleteMein Herz ist bei Prinz Philip !!!!
ReplyDeleteAgree with you entirely. Feel so very sorry for Prince Philip and the Queen who gave their children and grandchildren such a flawless example of service and putting others first. I suppose if you consider three out of their four children (excepting Prince Andrew) and the rest of the grandchildren they can feel they did not do too badly.
DeleteI too heard he was hospitalized on recommendation of his doctor, I hope he gets to go home soon. Wish him the best of health. My grandfather passed in 2018 just before his 105th birthday.
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Poor, poor Harry....
ReplyDeleteThis is the normal routine for members leaving Royal duty. Since they no longer work for the Crown they cannot represent the Crown so return their previous obligations. They can keep their private obligations which are unrelated. One more step to leading their own lives, in the same vein as many other European Royals do.
ReplyDeletePrince Charles has always favoured a smaller Royal family commitment so I doubt he minds very much. I sense that we will see a change in the way and the number of British Royal patronages and appointments are administered in the years to come.
- Anon 9:13
Thank you for your wise and balanced comment. I agree with you.
DeletePlus, even though the hate will surely come, it's their life, their choices.
Let's wish them the best and happiness in their lives!
They do not represent the Crown ,so why still keeping their Royal titles?
ReplyDeleteM.
Sarah, Diana kept their titles!
DeleteIt's just a formality, at least for us who like following the official royals. Best of life for them! Ruth from US
DeletePerhaps this question should be directed to the Palace insread of a blog of commoners?? The Title stripping phrase is not original. Sounds like you hope that they go broke and end up living in their car in Watts. Edwina
DeleteDiana probably kept it because she had two royal children. She was very good at it. And it was surely easier to stay near William and Harry. She also helped enfance the image of the Royal family.
DeleteThis has been explained many times. The titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex were given to them by the Queen upon their marriage, and only she can take them back if she chooses to. But for as long as they have the titles, they will use them. The title of 'Prince' for Harry (whose real name is Henry) is his forever since he was born into the title. No one can take that away from him. He will always be a Prince no matter what.
Delete- Anon 9:13
Sarah has her title as well. The Duchess of York did embarrass the family a few times, with photos to prove it, and is divorced out of the family. Why it was more acceptable for Diana and Sarah to retain their titles than Harry and Meghan is beyond me. Instead of faulting Harry for wanting a life different than the one he was born into and forced to live, we should be happy he found the courage to live his own life. Shame on his family for not supporting him. That is what real families do. Maybe if they had been more supportive and protective, Harry and Meghan would still be there. The only positive thing about the hatred for these two on this blog is that is but a snapshot of what they have been dealing with and what they have decided to leave behind. So I say keep it up, all you haters! You are actually making them look better and their case stronger for leaving every time you spew your toxic opinions and false accusations. I wish them every happiness. Feb
DeleteI was simply asking a question.
DeleteIt is only up to the Queen the last word about their titles.
Of course, Harry is a Prince by birth and will always be.
M.
@Anon/19/21, 10:00 PM Sorry is ist me of does your sentence sound very aggressive..do you want their titels? Ann
DeleteSorry, it is just you.
DeleteYou see aggressiveness where there is none.
I have a right to comment just like you.
M.
@Ann
DeleteNo, I do not want their ...titels.
I want to stay a commoner.
Tschuss.
M.
@M. Very sorry 🤭
DeleteEdwina @ 11:08PM.....I know you are defending Harry & Meghan when you made the comment about them sleeping in the car.....The part where you said "Perhaps this question should be directed to the palace instead of a blog of commoners" could come off as thinking you feel you are imperious!. I would be careful when using the words "Blog of commoners" in the future. We know the word commoners could mean we are "working class peasants off of the streets with no education". Trust me I do not think you meant any harm at all.....Fitzhugh
DeleteEdwina
DeleteYou are right, I should have asked the Palace , but you see, I am a commoner and I do not think I could have been paid any attention from the Royals and their staff.
I only happened to write a comment here like anybody has a right to do and nothing more.
Sorry if I hurt you somehow.
You have a lot of really nasty comments on this couple you can choose from and I hope you can spend some words about them too.
M.
@M. "I do not think I could have been paid any attention from the Royals and their staff". Exactly! The Royalty system exists on the idea that some humans are greater than others. If you are not royal then you are considered a commoner or of lesser birth. They would not pay you any attention unless you were chosen for a chat at one of their charity events. Those titles are all written on pieces of paper and are useless in America. If they are able to sign contracts because of their family connection, they will not be the first. It's called networking. The queen has said "the Duke and Duchess of Sussex remain much loved members of the family". She always refers to them by their titles which suggests that they will not be removed. As observers we should not take sides. This after all is a family dispute. They will reconcile at some point, most families do.
Delete@Fitzhugh - Imperious? Never! Well, maybe in my own kingdom :).
Having stood behind the barricades to wave flags as the queen passed by, there was no question as to my social standing. Commoners do not have 'blue blood' which would be 99.9% of us. If you do not fall into the commoner category, mea culpa! For H&M it is more a case of defending their right to choose. Preferring to earn your own living rather than feeding at the royal trough, funded by the taxpayer is a good thing. Good luck to them! Edwina
Congratulations to the couple on pursuing a course of their own choosing!
ReplyDeleteThe timing of the two statements leads us to believe that the details had already been agreed on and signed off by both parties with the stipulation that 'we go first' by the Firm. In addition there have been hints at the substance of the agreement since the beginning of this week from 'palace sources'. This just verifies the couple's claim that information always managed to find itself outside of palace walls ahead of a formal announcement, with the intent of compromising their privacy.
That they had offered to continue to serve the Firm leads to the assumption that the distancing was not with the 'serving' but within the family.
Good luck to them! If the Pilgrims, Magellan, Columbus etc. had stayed at home, the world would be a very small place. July
For the same reason that Andrew keeps his, even though he is allegedly involved in disgusting criminal behavior and the Queen has retired him from royal duties. For the same reason that the Duke of Windsor had a title when he stepped away. As much as it is fun for some people to want to believe it so they have more to hate them for, Harry and Meghan do not use their titles in the US. If you read an article or see a news clip where they are addressed that way, it was the decision of the writer or speaker to address them that way. ~d
ReplyDeleteThe prince and The duchess of Nothing..
ReplyDeleteWell done, Y.M.
Entirely agreed.
DeleteI would never have guessed they could be so disrespectful towards the Queen.
Shameful.
M.
I hope this brings clarity and rest for anybody involved.
ReplyDeleteThe way that lead to this conclusion could have been more elegant, but obviously couldn’t, so I hope the royal family comes to terms with Harry’s position in life.
Judith
Best of luck to them. Can't help feeling it's a pity it got to this point but if this is the path they want then I wish them well.
ReplyDeleteBob
I think this move was expected. They wanted privacy and they are getting it. Even now I am not aware of any constant intrusion into their lives. The only photos I have seen, are photos that the duke and duchess initiated. In a few years I think that they will fade from the public eye and be allowed to live the tranquil and private life that they want.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but you can hardly mean that think they want a private life!
DeleteThey could have lived in Scotland, England, Europe, name a place and kept themselves out of the limelight.
That is not exactly what they are doing.
Judy
I do not think that a tranquil and private life is want they want
DeleteQuite the opposite.
M.
Nice to see some photos, even though they're dated, of the Duchess with her style of dressing. Maybe we'll see more of her wearing the works from American fashion houses and designers.
ReplyDeleteFor their decision............ sad news for some, good news for others.
I wish them both and their family a long and happy new life in America.
Courage to them both.
Very good news. May they vanish forever. Frieda
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you, Frieda! And I also agree with LB a bit further down. - Ellie
DeleteHarry wants privacy and a "so called'' normal life. Meghan wants fame and money. They both have what they wanted. There will always be paparazzis around them. He's a royal, after all. She is popular just because she married a prince. Harry is not an idiot. He gives her all that she wants. May it last forever.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you.
DeleteAll that said, their exit was inevitable I'd say. As much as she wanted what she wanted, she wasn't ready to handle the consequences of those wants in my opinion. She needed more time. But to be out was chosen.
On a side note, I used to think that whoever will marry Harry would have some big shoes to fill, not just of his mother but also of the sister in law who had been in the royal circle long before marriage, in other words, who had time to get used to all that followed. And she endured.
For Harry, what happened to his mother affected him greatly (as it should for any child) and is determined to keep his family together, at whatever the cost.
All in all, as much as I respect their decision to live their own life (it must have been extremely difficult especially for Harry, having to choose between the Queen and his wife) - it's bittersweet to see the brothers not together anymore.
My heart goes goes out to the Queen and Prince Phillip who have to face these time-changing decisions in their 90s...
Nia
If this is what they want best wishes. I do feel that they have a public life still and that seems to be of their choosing! I personally think they could have had a better life if they had stepped back completely, they may not have had as much money or fame but they would have had a good happy life. Jordena
ReplyDeleteWhat does stepping back completely mean? The average person in their 30s needs to work to raise their family. How can they support themselves if they do not associate with others?
DeleteThere is a difference between releasing information about your projects and having others use personal information to publish articles on a daily basis to get clicks and sell magazines. Ana#1
most of us expect this to be the case and hope it work out for both sides. However, Something tells me these two will never be satisfied. There's always something to whine and complain about, always see themselves as victims. It's always others fault. LB
ReplyDeleteTheir loss, monarchy is safe with William and Kate. UK
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly.
DeleteM.
Everything what you do in life has consequences good, bad , or disappointing .
ReplyDeleteI hope they find the happiness and peace, they are seeking. I don't think the negative press will go away anytime soon, unfortunately. For some, Meghan can never do right.
ReplyDeleteE.B.B.
It is so sad to read all the bitter comments. In the eyes of many commenters, Meghan apparently could never do anything right when performing her royal duties, whatever she did. And I strongly suspect that even if they had decided to return, it, too, would have been a mistake in the eyes of those who now criticize their decision not to return. In those circumstances it is better to do what one feels is right for one’s own happiness and that of one’s family. H & M seem to be happy together, and, in the end, that’s what counts.
ReplyDeletePaula
Agree, privacy and press are probably the reason for the public. We do not really know what happened „inside“. SM
DeleteAgreed, Paula.
DeleteI also think that M would have been a very, very useful member to the BRF in this new, social and political millennium that we are living in today. I think some members knew it... and others didn't want it. And on the outside, the vicious press and public overwhelmed them with cruel negativity.
I'm very happy that they had the courage to go out on their own. They have my very best wishes for a fruitful and successful new life ahead. I'm excited to see what they will be up to!
- Anon 9:13
They want to leave let them be. Though their statement today has a bitter undertone and rather churlish toward the queen and royal family. Like petulant teenagers. lauren
ReplyDeleteLauren
DeleteYes, I also find their statement rude and petulant.
I am very disappointed in Harry.
M.
Harry was to be sidelined anyway in a pared-down monarchy (like what the King of Sweden has done). Hopefully there will be more cuts made to Harry & Meghan, which might also depend on their behavior & how much they "spill the beans" on talk shows. A tough situation for everybody concerned.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter who you are. Everytime you go on live TV to air grievances and dirty laundry about your family it never comes out well. It's better just move on. Personally I think this whole saga and swan song went on long enough. It's ridiculous. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. beth
DeleteCongratulations!! This what they wanted and I am sure that they have privately agreed to satisfactory terms between all parties. I continue to be puzzled by the amount of animosity toward this couple because they just didn’t want to be royals, who cares whether they make money from Netflix or from lucrative investments like the rest of the family? People do love drama, and portray the queen like a weeping granny, I would bet that she has seen her great grandchildren just a few times, her majesty has never been known for a being particularly close to her own children, not saying this as a criticism, simply stating what historian have written. The royal family though that Diana was an odd ball for being affectionate and being involved in her children’s lives, and it looks like they made her miserable. I think Harry wanted another type of family, they may live forever happily or split like many others, but it would be their choice.
ReplyDeleteI can hear the outrage, the judging of Meghan, all these women choking their pearls and running for their salts... the same people seem to be fine with Andrew’s shenanigans, and the inmoral and horrific behavior of Charles and his now wife.... and yet they are ready to send these two to the gallows.... crazy.
CB
I disagree , actually is a loss for the firm, these two were dynamic, interesting, and down to earth, they connected with the younger generation, good thing that Kate is still around and William to a lesser degree.... Feb
DeletePersonally I think there are faults on both sides.
DeleteHowever, there is this bizarre concept - known as innocent until proven guilty. Prince Andrew's "shenanigans" remain to be proven.
As to Charles and Camilla's immoral and horrific behaviour. Nothing to be proud of, certainly but Diana was no saint. I notice the people who clutch their pearls and need smelling salts when it comes to Charles and Camilla conveniently forget Diana's dalliances with about 7 men she wasn't married to. Two of whom were also married...
B
I agree with both of you, and for all the same reasons.
DeleteI think H and M would have been very beneficial in re-implementing the BRF in global social and political matters at a time when the monarchy is under attack. It was a chance to find new ways to make it relevant in a changing world. I also think that some knew this and were supportive of it, while others didn't like the idea at all.
I'm very happy for them and wish them heaps of good luck. Eager to see what they will make of all the opportunity ahead of them.
- Anon 9:13
@10:15 Mentioning that Diana was no saint is always the fall back argument for those who want to excuse Charles. Barely out of her teens, she had never had a serious relationship. To have her heart broken right out of the gate when she realized the the husband did not love her and never would was too much. She was not emotionally mature to handle it. Once the heir and spare were produced it was over. Imagine living possibly the next 60 years in a state of 'coldness'. True she looked for love in all the wrong places, but it was after she was badly let down by someone who promised to love her in front of millions of people. The effects are still being felt today. Edwina
DeleteI like Harry and Meghan;they are a unique couple;I had suggested early on in their marriage that they be considered for a diplomatic role in another country; eg. as a Governor ...;as they would then both have an intelligent role;and socially could become ambassadors. A pity that this suggestion was overlooked by Prince Charles. BRF
DeleteIf you read my comment properly Edwina you will see that I did not excuse Charles - although I don't think his behaviour was any more horrific or immoral than Diana's. I also think that he was/is a damaged individual - doesn't he get a pass? The fact is the marriage wasn't right for either of them and neither of them behaved well. Personally, I wouldn't qualify their behaviour as horrific.
DeleteDiana wasn't a damaged teenager for her entire marriage. There comes a point where people need to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. Her affairs with attached men happened when she was in her thirties. Frankly, knowing the pain inflicted on her you would think she would have given married men a wide berth. She was the "third person" in two marriages and one ended in divorce.
B
Indeed, the other two who were by then in their thirties grew up and took 'responsibility' for their actions. The only marriage destroyed in the entire saga was instigated by Diana. Some married women get a pass for engaging with married men in the name of love...others not so much.
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Bravo à Harry d avoir pris son destin en main. Meghan vilipendée par la presse de caniveau :Personne au sein de la famille royale n est venu à son secours Maintenant:Qu on leur fiche la paix et les laisser vivre comme ils le souhaitent. Je leur souhaite tout le bonheur du monde .La naissance prochaine d un bébé en bonne santé. Feb
ReplyDeleteI have always heard that people who do not like themselves have low self esteem. You compensate this insecurity by saying mean, vile and atrocious comments towards others to make you feel better about yourself. Maybe you should talk to a therapist to understand why you dislike yourself so much.....You have to love yourself first before you can like others.....Fitzhugh
ReplyDelete100% agree. Unfortunatelly nowdays there are a lot conformists who finally feel encouraged to tryin‘to look tough and take their verbal gun. SM
DeleteYou are exactly right, Fitzhugh, It is Bullying 101. Get them before they get me. It is why you occasionally see comments that tell the bullies that their comments are saying more about them than the people they are commenting on. To act this way towards people they don't know is frightening. Imagine how bad it may be when they don't like someone they do know. ~d
DeleteQu'ils continuent à vivre selon leurs désirs - Je ne m'en fait pas pour eux car c'est leur choix ; ils ne sont pas dans le besoin - J'attends surtout avec impatience l'arrivée de leur bébé ; peut-être qu' Archie aura une petite sœur !!
ReplyDeleteWith all the royals that do a standup job everyday, put up with the protacol, and the pressure of life with photographers in your face all the time, I applaude them for the intense job they have to represent their countries. With that said, a woman who comes in to the Firm, feet on the ground and running, as she stated, it was a lie from the start. She did not want to be a part of the family, nor did she have any respect for the respect of traditional roles. She had no thought to do anything other than marry a prince, then move him away to do what she wanted. Sadly, though she is a beautiful woman on the outside, the inside is what matters and its too bad she is manipulative, and her needs come first, cannot tolerate other people 'topping her', such as make her birth announcement on Harry's cousin's wedding day, and then make her own birth announcement within 24 hours or so of the birth of Eugenie's sons birth. Again, has to top the other royals. The woman needs mental help to get herself straightened out. In the meantime, she has led Harry astray, as well as starting Archie's life, away from his relatives and the chance to interact with his grandparents, his cousins, and especially his elderly great grandparents, because as usual, it's all about her, and what she wants, not what best for the child, or the husband. Oh well, this is a fashion blog. Fashion Fail; why? It's fashionable to be kind, loving, giving, respectful, empathetic for others, and give more than you get in return. She has not accomplished any of that. Its all about her, and her wants/needs. Annie
ReplyDeleteyou and many of us see this individual through and no matter how much drivel PR it's not going to cover up the cancer inside. Couldn't have said it better myself. beth
DeleteSurprised, how you figured all of this... Annie, you are too invested in perfect strangers, but not in a good way, your bias and dislike for this woman is almost ridiculous. You are offering your subjective and judgmental analysis. You aren’t fashionable either, your comments are unkind as well, not to mention the slight odor of your higher morality. HM
Delete@ Anonymous2/20/21, 6:57 PM –––->100%Agree This is over the moon. SM
DeleteHM 6:57. It's easy to see what a person is like, just watch them, it's the art of psychology. Their words do more damage than can be imagined. You are saying one does not have a right to an opinion, yet you offered yours, how quaint and subjective and judgemental you are if that is how you feel. Your thoughts are odoriferous to moi rather than accepting that someone can have a totally different opinion that yours. How perfectly quaint to have such an opinion of moi, a total stranger and I'm not the one saying, or doing nasty things. Have a great day Markle
Delete@Annie Out of curiosity, I am wondering how you figured out that Harry and Meghan deliberately timed the announcement of their pregnancy to steal away the attention of Eugenie and her baby. I think a better argument can be made that they had long planned to announce their pregnancy on that specific date because it was the date Diana announced her pregnancy with Harry. Their pregnancy would have been far enough along at that point and Harry could honor his mother in a small way. Why isn't Eugenie being blamed for ruining their announcement? In a loving family, this is joyous news all around. To decent people, this is joyous news. Only in a world that sees every action in terms of its financial value, depending on how the news is presented, can happy events be turned into something malicious. Only in a family where business and image is more important than the love and support of the individual, could the smutty press even get away with printing the things they do. What is most pathetic is that the tabloids have a cult-like following hanging on their every word, like a drug feeding an addiction. Keeping all this in mind, I ask again. Annie, how do you, using common sense and apparent intimate knowledge of this couple, know this was a deliberate strategy to get the attention for themselves. For that matter, how can you be sure they didn't conceive the baby for the sole purpose of ruining Eugenie's birth announcement? ~d
DeleteStep back, look at the facts, the time line, and the volital personality of Meghan. Harry said 'what Meghan wants, Meghan gets'. The Queen said no to her, Eugenie wore the tiara Meghan wanted, and ever since then, Meghan trys to upstage Eugenie, which is her way of 'getting the attention to her', trying to make each of Eugenie's major life celebrations, somehow about Meghan. Put on your detective shoes and follow the trail. Simple trail, even for those not paying attention.
DeleteIt was Eugenie's wedding day, not the appropriate time to announce a pregnancy, just a tacky way to get attention thrown to her and Harry.
To know the people is not the issue. Look at the facts, the trail of Eugenie's major moments in life, and then who comes forward to make 'major announcements' on Eugenie's special occasions.
I agree with Annie, look at the facts, the timing, the issues, it all comes together. Isn't freedom of thought and speech a wonderful thing. We can all agree, or disagree, but we all have our own thoughts. Feb
Qu'ils continuent à vivre selon leurs désirs - Je ne m'en fait pas pour eux car c'est leur choix ; ils ne sont pas dans le besoin - J'attends surtout avec impatience l'arrivée de leur bébé ; peut-être qu' Archie aura une petite sœur !!
ReplyDeleteThis was as inevitable as day following night ! HMQ will always have the interest of the Crown and it's future. The future is William and Catherine and their children.
ReplyDeleteMy disappointment is with the statement the Sussex put out ! Prince Philip lays in a hospital bed, and HM is 94 years old ! They could have been a little more gracious in their response.
I just hope, Harry never rues the day, he made such a definitive life decision. Hollywood can be a fickle place, and not one for the faint hearted ! But, good luck to them ! Ana
Anonymous Mia,
ReplyDeleteI think they could have given them more time but Meghan wanted to do things her way and faster. Can not blame her in a way, but she knew what was expected of her. Things were never fast enough for her. She is a rebel. She is perfect for Harry because he was not happy in this life, just like many other royals . He would have never changed his life by himself. It took her to do it. We don't know and will surely never know all the details about their departure. Things could have been done more respectfully, in my opinion. They both have their issues. Harry and Meghan are not victims.
They Queen and her team was much more demanding with William and all the other aspects of his professional and personnal life because he is going to be King one day. They expect less of Harry.
Saying they both have their issues is an understatement Mia. good grief. nicole.
DeleteHow can u know that? Is it you Meghan? SM
DeleteIn my comments I was trying to give Harry and Meghan the benefit of the doubt. I did not say that I believed they wanted privacy. I just quoted what they said and I do feel that they may regret their decision to leave the royal family. I also truly think that their fame will fade as the years go by and their link with the royal family weakens.
ReplyDeleteI find it highly disrespectful that Prince Harry and Meghan will be on the show of host Oprah Winfry talk about the royal family. I would never, ever have embarrassed my family like that.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, no one here in Central Europe knows who Oprah and her show are, so we will be spared from these gossip.
Stephanie
@Stephaine, how do you know what the line of conversation will be? At least wait until the show airs before making judgements based on rumors. Oprah is too skillful an interviewer to damage their fledging brand. She is also among the people who are publicly in their corner helping them to succeed. On the other hand how about his family that has stood by for a year watching them get savaged in the press, and NOT ONE of them has stepped forward to offer words of encouragement or consolation to them in public. Would your family do that? Anna
DeleteStephanie, how do you know what they are going to talk about? Crystal ball, or simply one more guess so you can express outrage for something that hasn’t happened.
DeleteHere is my guess, just as uninformed as yours, the Duchess of Sussex has not once spoken about her husband’s family, there have been things said by her friends giving her support, but never a member of the family has been named.
So what don’t you wait to attack her until she actually says something demeaning towards them? I am glad to hear that you don’t have to suffer the interview in Central Europe, that must be a great relief for your country. I am planning to watch it, I am curious to see how are they doing ,and also I like to see intelligent,
articulate people being interviewed. It’s a good thing to see a young couple enjoying the wait for their baby and loving each other... Call me crazy but all the disapproval, dislike, rumor, and sometimes hate just doesn’t do it for me.
Ciao!
So, has Oprah given you a private preview of what they said on the show , or what they will say? I don’t t know if it has been pre recorded or if it will in a few days but you already have the 411? You would’ve never embarrassed your family by speaking in TV, but they haven’t either... flash news it hasn’t happened yet.
DeleteNow you must wait a few weeks before you start getting on the pulpit, because right now you are commenting on an imaginary affront to the Royal family that’s only happening inside your head.
Don’t stress it will soon.
:)
I can't even guess what went on "behind the scenes". My feeling is that too much was demanded of Meghan too soon by the RF. That grueling 4-week trip to Australia and New Zealand while she was pregnant with her first child plus additional engagements practically from the get-go. The RF used Harry & Meghan shamelessly instead of letting them find their feet as a newly married couple with new roles to play. And while she bravely did her best to fulfill her "duties", the issue with her father right before the wedding had a strong effect on her. I believe she does love her family and realized that in order to safeguard those close relationships she needed to make her personal life unavailable to the British tabloid press, especially once her son was born she wanted to protect him at all costs. I feel sorry for Harry being forced to choose between family and wife, obviously he chose his wife. I have a feeling once the pandemic is over and travel is once again an everyday thing, they will visit the UK on a regular basis. After all, Prince Charles is grandfather to their children. Also wonder if there was an element of competition between the 2 couples, either real or contrived by the press. This way H&M have left the field to William & Kate. Maybe not such a bad thing. SM
ReplyDeleteDon't you think it's rather presumptuous to suggest the RF put heavy demands and used the couple. Haven't you thought about her or him asking to get a lot going so that she'll hit the ground running then failed to read the room or learn the culture. When things not going their way they bolted. both sides have their failings and no one is holier, though the sussex like to think they're beyond reproach. Besides, I can't imagine the queen would say no you can't pull out of a trip or assignment due to pregnancy or medical illness.
DeletePersonally, I think they should have dealt with her father in person and have things clear out face to face. The old man just wanted to be acknowledged and visited instead of phone tag. I mean before just Harry she was constantly sing praise of him and post photos and what not on her Tig. He wasn't shunned at her first wedding, given he financed the wedding. How would you feel if your own daughter didn't even bother bring her fiance and visit you. He did do the wrong thing photo op and talk with papers initially, but have they showed an effort to forgive and visit him I think it would save a lot of headaches. It's a drama saga that's going on long enough and there's faults on both sides. I don't buy into the narrative of one sided victim hood. heidi
You are the first one to notice this : so many appointments when she was just married, as if the r.f. tried too hard. On the other hand M is a grown up woman of nearly forty, so I guess she could have had a say in her program.
DeleteMany people underestimate the difference in culture between the UK and the USA: when she really had wanted she could have taken more time.
Maybe she is Harry’s way out that he needed. Judy
Remember, their first official appearance as a married couple was three days after their wedding.
Delete@heidi We can agree to disagree about Meghan's father. I have ever known any parent, no matter how they feel about their child, no matter the reason, who would go public with private family business. He not only went public, but it was on a global scale. Keep in mind that the BRF won't even defend or protect their family publicly, no matter how much it is warranted. We don't even definitely know what was at the root of the problem, really. Mr. Markle really can't be believed because he has been paid for "stories", and Meghan has remained silent. It is all speculation. As for going to visit him, I don't know about you, but it would be rather difficult for me to drop my life on the spur of the moment and go abroad for several days to talk to someone in person because a phone call, facetime or zoom was not sufficient. Now, given the man's track record with the tabloids, she could never be sure she was not being set up to be recorded and have excerpts published. We already know what he has done with her letter. Although meeting would be easier now that they live in the US, the wounds could be too fresh after her lawsuit. Nothing is black and white. There are no simple solutions at this point. ~d
Amen. Couldn't say it better. heidi. But seriously we all should stop, myself included, cause if we keep giving it attention , we provide the oxygen that fuels that type of behaviour . M.
DeleteTheir privacy wish? That's laughable! Harry is nothing but a puppet of Meghan.
ReplyDelete@Kteach as a regular poster, how many times must the meaning of privacy be explained? This is not a good look . Or, was it just a cover to insult Harry? Philip is Greek, he moved to the UK ....
DeleteEd.
For all of you that paint the Sussexes statement petulant... buahaha!
ReplyDeleteThey are simply stating that they will continue to support certain entities with or without Royal patronage. Period... please !
There's a politely way to say thing; and then there's an egoistic, passive aggressive way to say thing. If you can't read the tone of their language ,statement, you're deservedly their sheep. Who would take a fight with a 94 years old grandmother. Who in their right mind would go on live TV to air dirty laundry. Turns out she's not that different than her father and half sister that she despises so much.
DeleteYou would think with an ailing prince Philip in hospital, a pandemic, a freezing vortex causing suffering across the country, they'll call off doing their whiny tv interview this week. any respectful adults would not go thru with it. just my 2 cents. Jen.
Anonymous @ 7:57,what dirty laundry have she aired on TV? You already know that they will while and be pathetic.... Once again I think that all you haters are delusional, the interview hasn’t happened yet.. please wait a little to start hating on them. MG
DeleteSince they dislike the RF and the monarchy so much now would be a good time to renounce the titles involuntarily and forgo the line of succession. So much for linked, not ranked...angie
ReplyDeleteKteach, you know them personally?
ReplyDeleteOh wait a minute, you don’t... you just can’t wait for any article about them to start poisoning the blogs.
Pathetic!
Elsa
@ 11:42, and you know all of this, because? Can you please enlighten us about your sources, but please don’t be shy about giving us advice about how to handle relationships, and the proper interactions amongst the Royal family? You surely sound highly knowledgeable and astute.
ReplyDeleteI am curious about your rationale and most of all your professional training concerning human interactions that are mostly stories that you made up in your head.
Ignorance is daring!!!!
Baby
For any of this to make sense, the couple should be gracious enough to voluntarily relinquish their titles and go by Mr. mrs. Whoever. Jenny
ReplyDeleteJenny, and this couple having a title affects you how? MG
DeleteDear Anna and other discussants. Let me react.
ReplyDeleteHarry and Meghan have been making dramas from the beginning, always taking on the role of victim. They are constantly seeking the attention of the media, which is in clear contradiction with their expressed desire for privacy. Without their royal titles, they would have not million dollars contracts and celebrities as friends. Although Meghan did not speak directly to reporters about the royal family, her friends said it on her behalf, which is the same as if she had done it herself.
Harry and Meghan are two extremely privileged people who are constantly complaining. This is an insult to the people who are really suffering. Can't they really do something quiet?
Harry's family did not harm them in any way, and Meghan also contributed to the broken relationships in the Markle family. What's the disrespect for not introducing her fiancé to her father well in advance of the wedding? Don't visit your father in person when they fly private jets for her girlfriend's tennis match?
I think I can consider myself an impartial person to this couple - I'm not from Britain, the US, or the Commonwealth. Only my interest in fashion, protocol and the need to practice English brought me to this site.
Stephanie
Good that they leave, then they can live as the want - like Hollywood stars..
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately Meghan was never the right person to fit in to the royal family, she’s an activists and very active in social and sometimes political issues. That is very dangerous for any royal family because that’s puts it in direct conflict with one of the core principles, the neutrality. The RF is supposed to be above politics and can’t take sides because then it instantly pushes a large part of the public away and opens itself up for haters that want to replace it with a republic. If Harry was determined to marry Meghan he should have given up his titles and taken up a private life directly instead.
But the British RF has also a very bad history of preparing the new people who marry in to the family about what it takes and cost to join this family. The only successful in a long time has been with Catherine, who had to wait a long time to marry and therefore had time to realize what she was in for. I don’t get why the brits do this mistake again and again, almost no other country does this and the UK is even more in the spotlight then all the rest.
That’s just my option
I totally agree with your clear opinion,
DeleteJudy
Sophie Wessex as well.
DeleteHey Stephanie, there is nothing more absurd that spew nasty judgmental opinions about people that you don’t know and situations that you know nothing about, only to say at the end that that you are objective... hold my beer!!!
ReplyDeleteB
Dear B
DeleteI rate deeds not words. They were public figures and they want to remain public figures. The public can therefore praise / criticize them. If we could judge only people who we know personally we would not be able to comment on politicians either.
I judge their actions:
So the facts: They preach to people about their carbon footprint, but they fly on private planes themselves and live in a huge mansion with 16 bathrooms.
She is on tour in Africa, where she has met victims of violence, orphaned children and the disabled, but she only talks about herself.
The couple is not able to quietly discuss with the Queen about their resignation as senior members of the RF behind closed doors They will announce this to the family for a full 10 minutes ! before the whole world.
Harry and Meghan are not able to visit her father in private before the wedding to get acquainted him with the his soon son-in-law and to help him prepare for media interest. However, they have plenty of time to fly for expensive vacations or tennis matches across the ocean.
Her friends reveal details of the royal family's privacy.
Which fact from it is not true?
I think I'm more objective than you because I'm from abroad. I am not personally involved in this as a voter, citizen, or taxpayer. For me, it does not matter who is curently stars of tabloits in Britain or in the USA.
In one way or another I agree with just about everything said here. It’s a complex situation for sure,
ReplyDeleteYep!! Haters will hate, nothing better to do that go around judging people that have absolutely no effect in their lives. Are these the same folks that almost lynched the Queen when Diana died?
ReplyDeleteThe masses need somebody to judge, perhaps to avoid looking into their own lives.... you would think that they have committed treason, killed somebody, rob, go around attacking old ladies and kicking children 😀😀😀😀
Dear blog moderator-
ReplyDeleteI have a suggestion. Any comment beyond fashion please delete and don't post. That way people on both sides of the drama saga can't volley back and forth. This apply to any royal, period.
I don't know about all of you but I'm tired of having to hear celebs/ millionaires moaning. Any types, not pointing at anyone particular.
So limit to fashion. That's the only way to keep some sanity on here.
laura
Laura, actually you don’t have to read the comments, you know you can scroll just as you change channels on your TV.... just saying. RF
DeleteSo sad RF can't even take a suggestion without sounding nasty. RFgrass
DeleteWell, then bye bye, farewell and hopefully we don't need to see them on royal blogs any more.
ReplyDeleteYes! Au Revoir, Adios, Ciao!
DeleteRenee
Anna B, once again you don’t have to read, look or peruse into publications not to your liking... easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy.... how difficult is for you guys to ignore things and people that you hate? I don’t enter in blogs that are not to my liking . Why must you come to a blog and constantly complain about not wanting to see this couple while investing time reading about them and writing about them? Also it’s not your right to determine what others want to read, to throw a little tantrum because you don’t like the Sussexes is very childish... I for one am interested, and will continue to check them out.
ReplyDeleteM
@M I agree with you. I wish it was that easy. It is a compulsion with some people. Trying to get them to see things from a different perspective is falling on deaf ears. You are talking to yourself if you suggest they just move on. They want to be here to stir the pot. There are other places they can go and write to their heart's content on every conspiracy they can dream up, rehash all the tabloid trash, and overanalyze every pixel of every photo. It is apparent they get much more pleasure ruining a good thing for those that want to be here. Maybe a second blog should be started just to share the hate. Those that want to discuss fashion can stay here, those that feel the need to be hateful could go to 2.0. ~d
Delete@ ~d, what a clever idea, all the Meghan haters could start their own blog.
ReplyDeleteI used to follow a blog about Queen Letizia, and there was a group that called themselves the squirrels that were constantly demeaning her, not just her clothes, they were relentless. This blog end up disallowing comments, I guess it just got so vulgar, well the squirrels have their own blog now where they continue the war against her, although I must say that these hate monger are very well vested in fashion, they really know clothing.
Regards
M
One blog can be enough but some rules have to be stated, i.e.: everyone is allowed to say whatever they want about royals
ReplyDeletesuch as Charlene, Maxima , Stephanie and royal girls, BUT they are not allowed to express their own views about the Sussexes unless they adore them in every respect.
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