| On September 12, 2019, The Duchess of Sussex attended the launch of Smart Works capsule collection at John Lewis Oxford Street in London. Established in September 2013, Smart Works is a charity which provides training and interview clothes to unemployed women in need. Smart Works helps provide clothing and interview coaching to unemployed women in two-hour appointments. |
| The series of outfits that can be worn in the workplace have been created in aid of Smart Works. The Duchess of Sussex is patron of Smart Works. The duchess wore an outfit consisting of pieces from the collection. The Duchess wore a Misha Nonoo 'The Smart Set' shirt, Jigsaw Paris slim tapered trousers, a Polo Ralph Lauren saddle tan nappa leather skinny belt, and Manolo Blahnik cognac suede pointed toe pumps. |
Jigsaw Paris Slim Tapered Trousers
Misha Nonoo 'The Smart Set' Shirt
MANOLO BLAHNIK Pumps POLO RALPH LAUREN Belt
Another questionable "cause". I don´t know what the target group here would be, but it can´t be many people, and I don´t think that anyone failed in their business aspirations because they couldn´t afford a suitable wardrobe. People in need don´t need smart outfits primarily, and certainly not designer clothing. This "collection" is to promote fashion designers, nothing else, and it is disguised as charitable work. I´m not impressed.
ReplyDeleteAs for the outfit Meghan is wearing here - I can put that look together for under 50€, including the shoes, using exclusively no-name products. It can be done for 15€ if you use second-hand items. If my lack of suitable work outfits was the only thing preventing me from succeeding, I´d manage to get hold of what´s required. And the first paycheck would solve all problems anyway.
100% d’accord!
DeleteThe designer clothes are sold to raise money for the charity. Its a very common thing in the UK for charities to have clothes shops as a way of gaining revenue for their cause.
Delete"A questionable cause", really?
Deleteit is obviously much more than a question of clothes and mainly a question of self-confidence that an outfit can give you. You look different after a session, you find yourself beautiful, ready for work.. Maybe it does not touch you at all but for a lot of other women, it could bring them a little joy. The women that are sent to this charity have faced a long time of unemployment, may have self-esteem problem and this charity helps them, supports them and yes gives them clothes
This charity existed long before Meghan came along and received numerous prizes so other people have found it useful and were impressed by its work.
As for the price of the items, two dresses at 19 pounds are part of the collection so it can reach a wide audience.
The idea that John Lewis, Jigsaw and M&S need to be promoted is kind of ridiculous as they are majors retailers in the UK and none of the clothes in the collection are designer clothing. They are classic, timeless pieces.
I don't understand all the hate around Meghan, but if you really can't stand her, at least be fair.
This action does not promote fashion designers (who designs the clothes by the way? no idea) and it is charitable work no matter what you think of it as much as Kate designing gardens or doing photography is. Meghan obviously enjoys fashion as Kate enjoys the outdoors and they tailor their activities around their tastes.
So Vanessa you got it all wrong. Maybe too busy to spread some hate before even reading what it’s all about? It’s charity: I buy a shirt and someone gets a shirt. Heard about Tom’s or Bob’s? Job interviews can be stressful and especially if there is not appropriate clothing. This is a lovely line of business clothing. I’m looking forward to see more projects from Duchess. -Jo
DeleteWOW seriously Vanessa? Where's your heart? There are many charities that provide professional/employment clothes and employment services to women in need. There's one in the US called "Dress For Success" if anyone is interested. I think it's pretty arrogant for you say people in need don't need smart outfits...why not? They deserve them just like everyone else. Look up the charity before you make uninformed comments because these charities do soo much more with these women. When the US went into a recession so many charities popped up for men and women regarding professional clothing/resume writing/salon appointments etc. Don't knock things that don't apply to you. With you MJ this hate on Meghan needs to stop. - Capt. Marvel
DeleteI am amazed by this comment. Have you never, ever met someone who couldn’t afford to buy decent clothes for an interview???? What country do you live in where this would be a ‘questionable cause’?
DeleteI hope this note was something of an accident. Let’s assume that.
These clothes are very decently priced and I would hope of good quality. Basic ‘work wardrobe’ building blocks. Interesting to see how well it will do (I read elsewhere that the bag sold out in less than an hour, which I believe is remarkable). I hope this initiative really helps Smart Works get enough clothes to help their clients for a long time. They are doing a wonderful job.
Lily A
Vanessa, you are spot on!
DeleteThe cause is not aimed at middle income business women but women who need help to get into the workplace. They are helped to acquire a professional wardrobe and how to present themselves in an interview. I fail to see how supporting women whose life circumstances mean they struggle to find work is a questionable cause!
DeleteBravo
DeleteVanessa, the target groups are clear - thin women and Meghan-Groupies!
DeleteI understand your comment, you explain your point of view well. There is no "hate" in your words. I still believe it should be possible to share different opinions on this blog.
As for fashion, this outfit is okay. Nothing special, but also nothing wrong.
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Questionable cause?Seriously?Meghan look simple and elegant.
DeleteThin women ? The sizes range from 2 to 26 UK sizes
Deletethey are classic pieces in the price range of what every chain usually sells so the target of the chains is basically their customers
I am always puzzled at comments accusing me of hate, when there´s nothing remotely hateful in what I wrote. People need to stop confusing criticism with hate.
DeleteI am not impressed by the cause, as I wrote above, but I didn´t say anything at all about Meghan. I don´t know her, and I have no reason to dislike her. In fact, I think she has a good rapport with people and clearly a brave attitude to take on her position.
Where my heart is? I think it is where it belongs, but that doesn´t mean that my brain is switched off. One can be compassionate and still think, and especially when it comes to causes aimed at people in need, I am instantly suspicious when it comes across as a promotion for someone´s business, like businesses trying to make profit off charity work. I don´t know more about this work than what was written on this post, but I also wrote that I found it questionable, literally meaning it that there are questionmarks. If there are good answers to those questions then fine, but I won´t automatically applaud something just because it´s labelled a charity and is promoted by a royal person. It needs to be convincing at least, and better yet: successful.
Now, why I don´t find it convincing:
- Usually the problem with employability is qualifications, not looks. And qualifications should be the criteria, not someone´s outfit. In other words: Putting someone in smart clothing may well make him/her feel more empowered, but won´t enhance anyone´s qualifications. And if someone is qualified enough, his/her outfits shouldn´t be an issue. If an employer requires his/her employees to wear a certain outfit, it will be provided, so the issue of not having anything to wear wouldn´t arise at all.
- I don´t see the need to promote any labels in this project. It kind of defies the purpose of making a smart wordrobe affordable for anyone.
- If accomplished businesses really wanted to do charitable work, they can do so at any time. No need to publically and glamourously launch a collection and get royalty to promote it.
- I recognize that there´s a problem with people not getting into the labour market for reasons that are not their fault. I also think that they should get help. But to put these people into smart clothing and train them up to make a good impression at an interview doesn´t help anyone. That´s like putting new paint on a broken building. It will at best be a short-term solution but won´t address the underlying structural problems, in fact it will distract from them. If we want everyone to have equal chances on the labour market, we need to give everyone equal opportunities to get a decent education; we need to empower children to pursue their dreams; we need to make sure all jobs are paid well enough so you can live of that income; and most of all we need to adress social problems in our societies. None of this is helped by putting the poorer people in nicer clothes. If it DID help, then actually employers are the problem, not the employees.
I completely disagree with those who find this cause worthless . I work at a charity here in the US who provides free of charge interview work outfits for low income disadvantaged women who are trying to get back into the workforce. Many of their stories are truly heartbreaking . It is an amazing and beautiful to see what an enormous difference having a nice outfit and looking good can make. We see it over and over again. As someone else here mentioned it is all about confidence. My understanding is that Smart Works provides clothes ( which are in a wide range of sizes) free of charge as well. Many of those negative commenters have not taken the time to read all the information about this effort.
DeleteWow Vanessa!! You really like to hear yourself talk, don you? Please get out of your head and take a walk on the real world... really? people getting a job because not only are they qualified but also present themselves in a professional manner, doesn't help anyone? funny how your first post is condescending and ill informed, and the second "tries" to be aspirational, problem is that it's pure demagoguery, and frankly we can read the same kind of language on any politician website. Honestly I much prefer to read hateful, and blissfully ignorant comments as those spewed by Coralie, than your diatribes pretending to be pragmatic .
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Your explanation doesn’t hold water Vanessa. Every research says your technical abilities are (at most) 30% of what an employer bases their decision on. How you present yourself and the confidence you have are essential. No one ever hires people who they think don’t have the confidence in themselves, technical skills can be gained and that is rarely (if ever) the core criterion for selecting a candidate. I suggest (respectfully) you expand your knowledge in the area.
DeleteThe good intentions of certain royals (not just Megan) are often disputed without a real understanding and that is something no one can deny (I mean, you can, but it’s not going to convince many). I can guarantee that if this had been Catherine’s idea, it would have been ‘wonderful, incredible, brilliant’ and so on. The reference above about ‘skinny’ is just mind boggling. Really? A black dress or suit is only for ‘skinny’ people? Same with the bag? I am trying really hard to understand such comments, but it’s just beyond any imagination. By the way, you may have missed that Megan isn’t ‘skinny’ after giving birth, have another look please. Perhaps admit (even if just to yourself) you may have rushed to conclusions. Might make the discussion on the next post more meaningful and less judgmental.
Lily A
I'm with you. A young person I know recently took an internship at a business firm and was absolutely thrilled to find an organization that provided her with a business suit and professional handbag, something she couldn't afford as a college graduate. Her qualifications were superb, her budget non-existent. Think how encouraging it would be to women from the school of hard knocks to go into an interview beautifully attired, or at least appropriately attired. The smartworks capsule collection is about "community, not charity." A hand up, not a hand out. The difference is the attitude with which the effort is undertaken and I'm all for women pulling each other up.
DeleteVanessa, in your first post, you made some uneducated statements. You were called out by many people here, and rightly so. Instead of going to Google and doing a little research on Smart Works, the capsule collection, unemployment rates among disadvantaged women, etc., you posted again with no more knowledge than you had the first time.
DeleteYou said you have questions about the charitable aspects of the capsule collection. Instead of going on a public forum to bad mouth it, find the answers to those questions. If you still feel the same way, at least you will have factual reasons for your opinions, not your feelings.
Without rehashing what has already been so eloquently discussed by others about the need for organizations like Smart Works, I do want to address your comment about clothes not making a difference to one's employability. While I am not dismissing your argument that qualifications are important, it is very important to dress for the job. You say that an employer will provide an outfit if certain apparel is required (often at a cost). I disagree. If you want to work in a bank, the bank manager will not provide business attire. If you go to the interview wearing your best jeans and t-shirt, because it is all that you own, no matter how qualified you may be, you will not be hired. You must represent the bank in a professional way. The same can be said for working in a school, a shop, a church, an office, or any number of places that do not require a uniform. Clothes cannot be too revealing, jeans and t-shirts may not be welcome. If a hiring team has a choice between a candidate that presents herself professionally and one that doesn't, all other qualifications being equal, the choice will go the the more polished candidate. First impressions mean a lot.
Your comment about the first paycheck solving all their problems made you sound very entitled. I don't think you meant for anyone to think of you that way, but that is how it came across. I think it was just a case of not thinking things through (at least I am hoping) before posting. Your name does not come to mind when I think of the people that have been vocal in their dislike of Meghan, and I believe you when you say you have no reason to dislike her. I hope you find the answers to the questions you have about the collection.
I am not talking about Meghan. I would have criticized this cause even if someone else had promoted it. I did not research it, yes, and you can hold that against me, but I reacted to what was already contradictory and made little sense. And I´ll stick to my point. Jobs are about qualifications. If you have the right qualifications, you will have the necessary confidence because you know you´re qualified. You will also know what kind of wardrobe is required for the job, and your training would have included things like business conduct and business etiquette. If anyone showed up in jeans and t-shirt for an interview for a bank position, I would not hire that person either because that outfit clearly shows that the person doesn´t know what´s required. Not knowing what´s required means the person is not qualified to do the job.
DeleteI won´t buy the qualified-but-poor argument either. No-one would invest a lot of time and money and effort into their qualification and then end up 50€ short of getting the necessary outfits. Also, if you seriously aspire to a career that requires you to look smart, you´d build your wardrobe over the years. And honestly, I don´t know of anyone only owning jeans and t-shirts anyway, and you need money to buy those too, so you may as well buy a pair of smart trousers instead.
Many employers do provide uniforms (think bus drivers, retail employees, insurance staff, medical workers, mechanics, builders, postal service, janitors...) or a once-off wardrobe allowance. You don´t need business attire to work in a school, small shop or church - normal casual outfits will do.
The first paycheck would of course solve the problem. Why is that an entitled remark?
The real reason why people struggle to find good jobs is because they either lack the necessary qualifications or face social obstacles (which may well affect one´s confidence level, but then again, that won´t be solved by nicer clothing). And lastly, the general economic situation dictates the labour market. You can look as smart and polished as can be and you might still not find a job because their just aren´t enough positions available for all the people searching. Smart clothing won´t solve a high unemployment rate either.
Excuse me Vanessa, some rhetrocal questions should be allowed. When was your last job interview? What did you wear?
DeleteVanessa, of course who am I to give advice really, but you need to take a walk on the real world, perhaps some volunteering with women less fortunate than you? It's exasperating how you can convolute a subject that is so very simple, obviously this charity won't solve unemployment, lack of good education and all the perils that some humans have to endure, but it will definitely help a few women to get a job, simply because other women are willing to invest a little, some by purchasing and others by volunteering, it's rather uncomplicated. No everybody can contribute to causes that result in universal change, but every little effort has a positive result regardless how small. Have you ever practiced random acts of kindness? I highly recommend it.
DeleteI completely agree with you, Vanessa. Qualifications is the key word for getting a job with a reasonable income you can make a living with. If there are no qualifications the job often pays only minimum wage. I know that being poor here in Germany is far different from being poor in the UK and from being poor in the US. But the thing of clothes for job interviews is in all countrys only a momentum. A permanent is the question of how to get daily to the job, what to do with the children while working, how to afford rent internet or grocerie shopping.
DeleteAnd for the companys involved: I really do hope they pay all of their female employees reasonable wages and do care that their suppliers all around the globe do the same. Reasonble in most countries means more than the local minimum wage. Because nobody can life from minimum wages. Christine
There are thousands of jobs that require serious qualifications, and some that do not. Some people are focused on the idea that these women are looking for office jobs to climb the corporate ladder. The average job in some places is competed for by at least 6 candidates in the final round. If all of them are equally qualified then other factors are taken into consideration, including the presentation of your person. Aside from this, there are jobs in hotels, schools, retail, childcare, to name a few where qualifications will be viewed differently. This narrow view also fails to take into consideration that some of these women may be immigrants or refugees starting life in a new country who have to learn new forms of dress, and how dress for different seasons. The help given by this organization in that regard is invaluable. The first paycheck will not solve all of their problems either.
DeleteIt is a fact that in some countries women are poorly educated. Getting a job in a new country (their first job ever) will not be all about qualifications. While volunteering with these women on how to express themselves in writing, their stories are all similar yet different, as is the point at which they either left or were taken out of school. @ Vanessa. The tone deaf postings are the reflection of a cavalier approach to the issues of people outside of the orbit of a certain area of privilege , and is not a good 'look'. Resorting to anything to cane Meghan also trivializes the work people who believe in altruism. Meghan is a conduit to bring media attention to the charity and attract 'clients' who would not normally be aware of this option in their search for a better life. At this rate Florence Nightingale would have been accused of husband hunting for a man of means among the soldiers. I am sorry but some posts are an embarrassment to women especially considering our history.
If things are bad, then there are the second hand shops where you can put together very normal and affordable wardrobe. You don't need designer clothes to get a job...or if you do, then that is sad.
DeleteThe cost of a white shirt by Misha Nonoo is $185. Not cheap.
I know many women who are addicted and buy expensive clothes, designer handbags, shoes, etc, so they never save, spend money they earn because they believe they must wear all the newst clothes. When they loose their job, what then?
Rather invest money on a sewing course. My mother teached me sewing. Now I sew my own clothes. I make gifts to friends. Its fun and unique And I can choose fabrics and styles that flatter my curvy figure.
MS
I am not rich or privileged by any means. My income is lower than what is defined an existential minimum in my country. I work as a freelancer, and I have to acquire jobs regularly. I know what it means to make contact to new employers, in fact it is highly like that I have done that more than most people discussing here. I have also lived abroad for a substantial part of my life, partly in countries very different from mine, and while I admittedly have never been a refugee, I do know what it means to deal with a different language, with a different culture and with very little ressources at hand. You guys make assumptions about me, yet you know nothing.
DeleteI have been rejected at interviews many times in my life, and I have sometimes struggled to make ends meet. How I still get by and make a living? By being good at what I´m doing. By trying as long as it takes to succeed. And it is the qualifications that are key to success, and it is success that boosts one´s confidence. What makes me more fortunate than others? I was given the chance to get a good qualification, and others were not.
I do very much live in the real world. I have worked in recruitment. Holding a language degree and having a teaching background plus experience from living abroad a lot myself, I am also involved in integration work. I am in direct contact with many women and families that many here describe as in need. I know their situation, and I also know that it is not their clothing or confidence that makes it hard for them to find work. It is either their qualifications (as many are un-trained workers) or social obstacles like not speaking the language well enough, not having family support, not finding childcare, not being mobile etc.
I am a woman myself, and I know that many women around the world have very real daily struggles. But since this discussion is centered around the UK, and even applies to most places in Europe and the western world, I cannot really support this disadvantaged-women-narrative. And even if women were that disadvantaged, I find it extremely superficial to believe that putting them in smart clothes would erase any such disadvantages. That is basically telling them that their worth is about their look, and that is the exact opposite what they need. In fact, it will likely set them up for failure, because in work life, they need skills which they don´t have unless trained.
Coming back to the cause: If anyone wishes to help people in need, they can just provide them with what ever they can afford to give, or assist them in some practical way. But this charity is about selling things, and the companies do make decent profits of this. If they really wanted to do some good, why not directly - by employing these women? THAT would be convincing and make a real difference.
Anyway, I wrote this to answer the questions directed at me. You are all free to think about this cause what you want. And so am I.
What makes your resumptions better than others resumptions?
Delete@4:39 You've hit the nail on the head. The poor should content themselves with second hand things because??...they are poor. Now there is one more thing to buy out of that first paycheck..a sewing machine...and viola!!... problem solved. @Vanessa. Evidently, still!! not having read the information on this project or the text of Meghan's speech, this latest screed (incl. 3 paras of me, me, me)can be summed up in the last paragraph. 'If anyone wishes to help people in need, they can just provide them with what ever they can afford to give, or assist them in some practical way'. When a group of people work together to solve a common problem much more is achieved because of the multiple ideas offered. Sterile pablum from a distance sounds a lot like 'let them eat cake'.
DeleteYes, qualification is everything and that is the reason why MM really fits in her role. It has nothing to do with her beauty, her warmth, her everything. She has a degree, is cultivated, work expierenced, is approachable, has life experience and a lot more to offer. She did not need a training period. MM knows, that fashion respectively clothes are making people.
Delete@9:20. What I try to say is that there are many options to buy or make affordable clothes. A second hand, "fast" fashion, or your own design. You don't have to be poor to visit second hand! Its also environment friendly and gives clothes longer life.
DeleteEven the princesses (not Megan thought!) who are not poor, recycle their outfits, wear Zara, H&M, Mango or clothes that look like smth from the second hand shop, and why not?
We don't need white blouse that cost $185. Or do we?
Its sad that some women believe they have to wear latest fashion or Vuitton bags to be someone... But "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"--Eleanor Roosevelt.
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Well Vanessa, once again your lengthy description about you is rather self explanatory.. I believe that either you are describing somebody else, or sadly, with all your qualifications you still don’t get it...
DeleteHey Anonymous @ 4:39, you are a prime example of how society denigrates women, so let them be content with second hand stuff and make sure they never get out of their poverty so they won’t get a clothing addiction, OMG!!!
Vanessa if you really think that there are no disadvantaged women in the UK or western Europe all that travel, living abroad and life experience you describe hasn't served you well - that's just naive.
DeleteOf course you don't have to like this charity or can have reservations about it but please come armed with facts.
@1:36. For every item that was purchased, one was donated to the charity to be given to a potential job seeker. No one is asking them to buy the shirts. Since you sew, you will know that a $185 shirt does not really cost $185. That price covers the cost, labour etc. for 2 shirts, since one will be donated to the charity.So in reality you are donating to the charity by giving one of the 2 shirts that you purchased to them. Also which comes first, the money to buy a sewing machine or a job to earn money to buy a sewing machine?. The charity looks at the whole person and tries to help, not just an outfit, and all of this information is available for reading before commenting. The rest about designer clothes and recycling is not understood. Inferior, homemade clothing that is badly put together by an unskilled person is just that..inferior. MB
DeleteAnon 1:36 (MS), "Even the princesses (not Megan thought!) who are not poor, recycle their outfits, wear Zara, H&M, Mango or clothes THAT LOOK LIKE SMTH FROM THE SECOND HAND SHOP". They look like they are from the second hand shop because they are unattractive, and they aren't doing the wearer any favors. We get your point. You don't like Meghan. Kate will go a few years at times before repeating a dress. Meghan hasn't even been in the family that long. She has gone through a pregnancy and post-pregnancy during the majority of her marriage. It makes repeating outfits from the beginning of her marriage impossible at this point. Then, of course, we have the issue of how much her choices were criticized for being inapporpriate for a myriad of reasons. Her clothes will not magically change color, become longer or shorter, change designers, or become more more or less detailed (depending on each and every person's individual preferences). I would think with so much criticism of her pre-pregnancy wardrobe, many people would be thrilled to never see those clothes that "broke protocol" (insert eye-roll) ever again.
DeleteYour comment about some women feeling they must having the latest fashion has some merit. The point you miss is that the capsule collection is the opposite of that. These are core pieces that are meant to be wardrobe builders, just basics, that don't go out of style in one season. The basic white button down, for example, is a piece that will always work for any woman until the end of time. Not all women can afford the price of this blouse, but the ones that can will buy it, knowing that they are getting a classic blouse and they are also donating to a worthy charity. Your arm isn't being twisted to make a purchase. If you believe in Smart Works or another charity that does similar work, give in another way.
It is easy to say that "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent". That is a rather small minded view. You can never know what personal struggles a woman has been through. We women are strong and can overcome a lot of adversity, but even we have our breaking points. How many job rejections can one person take before they are deeply depressed? Knowing she is going in prepared for her interview, and looking professional and work-ready, she will not have to think it was "her", but more likely that someone else fit the job description better.
It looks like many here need to defend this charity?
DeleteWhen I purchase one shirt for the price of two, then the company earn profit anyway.
How do they choose women who need help? Do they have right sizes and designs women need?
MS
Bravo Chardonn8r, I agree with your so very eloquent point of view... but, by now you should know that even the best explained, and factual argument won't make a dent on people with preconceived ideas and judgment on their hearts. It's my belief that if this charity was held by Catherine, or even Sophie, some of the bloggers will be in rapture, with the exception of the usual suspects that always find fault with the entire universe :-) . Just like one of the commenters above, that her argument was " I DONT LIKE HER, PERIOD!!!!! That should be enough to get an idea of how some people, debate, argue, and assimilate what they see... in any event, I so enjoy reading your very well expressed opinions.. Gotta run, as usual I am typing on a hurry and with my fat fingers ...
Delete@9:16 You are purchasing 2 shirts (TWO), One of which will be shipped to you and the Other to the charity. It is a form of giving without giving actual money. Everyone wins. OMG!! What sheltered lives we lead. MB
DeleteAnon 9:16 Why are you posing questions to the people here when you have made it clear you will only argue with them when you don't like the answer. A person who really cared to educate herself instead of stirring the pot would do some research. There can only be a few explanations. It is as I stated earlier, you don't like Meghan so you will never see anything good in what she does, your mind is closed off and you have no empathy for others, or you are computer illiterate and unable to educate yourself about the very organization and the collection you feel compelled to lambaste.
DeleteFirst time commenting :-)
DeleteBuying a sewing machine is a great investment. And home-sewn garments can look fantastic. In fact, they will automatically be custom-made and unique - two things that will definitely work in your favour. You don't even have to be an expert seamstress to make great use of a sewing machine. Just being able to adjust shop-bought clothes can make a huge difference, like take up trousers that are too long, or make a skirt a bit tighter to fit right etc. And lots of other things can be made as well, meaning that you don't have to buy them. It doesn't need to be your business wardrobe that you save your money on, it can be curtains, bedding, children's clothing, bags or whatever that - when all made at home at a low cost - may free up some money to invest into a nice blazer or pair of smart shoes. Let's not insult people who enjoy sewing.
@Sandra, totally agree with you. Oh, and its so wonderful to meet people who enjoy sewing and handcraft.
DeleteI first learned this art from my grandmother. Then I had enthusiastic handicraft teacher at school, and I took courses. So I've got this "craft bug" and it won't go away ;) I find it relaxing, sometimes frustrating, but its fun to see what you come up with. And like Sandra so rightfully said, its custom-made, unique, made of quality materials, fit for your shape.
Sad to hear that there are people who think that homemade clothing is ... inferior ??? I always get compliments. My gfriends want me to sew them too. I guess they want to look homely too :D I guess that is why I always spot ill-fitting, bad-quality clothes that are shop-bought and really need some adjusting :D
I also enjoy scarf, hat, socks knitting (we have cold winters here, brrrr). Me and my friends donate what we've done for free to the shelters, orphanages, large families who need them. I didn't realize that you can earn from your charity but I still prefer to do it our way. Perhaps if I'm so poor that I no longer can buy all the materials required, we will have to do some kind of charity fundraising ;) But I hope it won't be necessary.
Sorry if I hurt someone's feelings. We all see things differently, agree or disagree about things and people. There's no need to become personal :)
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Sewing is a skill that has to be taught. It is a labour intensive, time consuming process. The person will have to learn about patterns, notions, types and weights of fabric etc. What will wash well or not. The first few pieces are never perfect. A lady who needs a job needs something ready to wear, then pieces can be added over time. In any case, the topic has nothing to do with sewing. It is about someone presenting a polished appearance at a job interview with the help of this charity, and Meghan being a part of the process. -M
DeleteI've been following this discussion and have opted to stay out of it so far, but feel like adding my two cents now anyway.
DeleteA charity should be a selfless thing, not involving any profit. As soon as there is a revenue aspect to it then it's not pure charity. The buy-one-donate-one scheme here means that half is revenue, half is charity. This is clear for everyone to see, and disputing this is ludicrous.
Designer labels don't get bought because of a much better quality but because they are associated with a certain status. And in order for that to work, they need to be pricier, so that only people with that status can afford them. People who already have that status (and the funds to buy this collection) may well see it as a good deed to elevate a disadvantaged person to the same status by giving that person the associated status symbol. And following that logic, any budget, second-hand or home-made items wouldn't have the same effect and therefore won't do for them. I think it's all well and just if that's what you feel, but then please don't argue that disadvantaged people are in need because they don't have anything to wear (and dismiss all perfectly reasonable suggestions given by others on how to solve that problem). Your argument should then be that people are disadvantaged because they don't have a status symbol proving that they have made it in life.
This might also explain why some here have very different perceptions about who is disadvantaged and in need. If the criteria is "not having anything suitable to wear" then that group is minimal. If the criteria is "not having any status symbols" then that group is suddenly huge.
I don't understand why some people here keep bringing up Meghan and keep claiming that everyone questioning this cause does so because they hate Meghan when clearly that is not the case.
Bewundernswert, sie kommt ja aus nicht so dollen VerhΓ€ltnissen und kann sich in die Materie einfΓΌhlen. Das Outfit gefΓ€llt mir. Es ist eine sehr klassische und immer aufs Neue schΓΆne Kombination der Farben Schwarz, WeiΓ und Cognac. Ich finde auch sehr angenehm, dass sie sich nicht dem "Afterbabybody" Run angeschlossen hat, sondern es langsam angehen lΓ€sst. Die paar PfΓΌndchen mehr machen sie in meinen Augen sogar attraktiver.
ReplyDeletei like this business chic look, nothing fancy
ReplyDeletei also love that her hair looks more natural afro look
Winnie, her hair isn't even close to look like an afro. - Pola
DeleteI’ve never seen straight Afro.ππ
Deleteyou can see the difference between where her natural hair ends and extensions behind. and yes afro hair can be straight in some parts of Africa like Ethiopia ans Somalia.
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This is the best of Meghan’s style. Simple, basic clothes elevated by fantastic accessorizing. Those bangles are just lovely. She looks very pretty.
ReplyDeleteNon direi semplici!!! , solo le scarpe hanno un prezzo molto alto!! Forse delle sneaker sarebbero state piΓΉ indicate!!!
DeleteTotally agree!
DeleteAlways playing with her hair. /Julie/
ReplyDeleteWell, it appears to have been a windy day. She looks happy, nice to see her again. Dido
DeleteAhhh Julie did you forget Kate does the same thing..oh wait because hair gets in peoples faces. - Lin
DeleteYes,like kate.
DeleteVanessa, the charity involves more than giving outfits to poor women, it also focuses on training and CV preparation. Not sure how many people you have interviewed in your life or how many times you were the interviewee, but it's a very competitive process ( specially in the US) and so many women have never had the benefit of professional training in order to show themselves on the best light. I deal with very young underprivileged young mothers that could benefit immensely by these programs. Not sure if the rest of the royals have way more important causes, but in order to make progress you need to take baby steps. Respectfully, your comment sounds just catty, demeaning other people's efforts is just plain wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe outfit is just what any young woman could wear to a job interview and look presentable and polished.
Julie, I saw the video of her speech, and she kept moving her hair out of her face, because it was wicked windy.
Thank you Cherry Blossom! πππ
DeleteAgree with all of your points. Not to mention that having someone validate you by dressing you in probably the nicest clothes you have ever worn gives you a confidence you may have never felt. Well done!
DeleteWell said, Cherry Blossom!ππππ
DeleteWell said Cherry
DeleteLike the shoes, the trousers and blouse are harmless but the trousers don't seem to fit particularly well. I am confused by this initiative. I thought Smartworks was a charity which accepted donations of work wear which are then reallocated to women who need work clothes. Seems like a good idea and I would be happy to support that--well done to the Duchess of Sussex and others who have promoted it. However, I can't see the necessity of the Smartworks collection. The people who are seeking clothing for interviews because they have none don't need trousers costing over £100 etc
ReplyDeleteAnswering my own question as to the reason for this initiative as I just saw the Duchesses speech where she says decided to intervene when she noticed a lack in variety of sizes and styles being donated. Still think the method of raising money is unnecessarily complicated.
DeleteI watched a video of her speech - it was spot on. This is a very real problem, and anyone who thinks it isn’t leads a charmed life. Great cause and great look today.
ReplyDeleteWell said. I am very pleased so many people don’t just rush to conclusions (although I have to admit the thought of even reaching some of these ‘conclusions’ completely escapes me). RF in Northern Ontario
DeleteHer accessories make the outfit which I’m not sure serves the cause. I have liked other outfits better when she’s worn a white button down. I personally would have rather she mixed one of two of the pieces from the collection with other affordable brands.
ReplyDeleteKate plays with her hair too.
I think it is a wonderful cause! In fact I purchased the black dress and the bag! Makes me happy to know that someone in need will get the dress and bag FREE in an effort to find a job and gain assistance in obtaining a job and job skills. Anyone who would poo poo this is perhaps a little entitled? I have volunteered with Dress for Success here in America and let me tell you a woman who has been out of the workforce with no skills and often coming out of terrible circumstances is so grateful for a new outfit and assistance with a job. Not everyone is so fortunate...I say brava Duchess for giving back to women who are not lunching at the club but rather digging their way up out of poverty!
ReplyDeleteHi Diane, I have also volunteered with Dress for Success myself, and had the opportunity to see the positive results of these organizations. It seems to me that people are so ready to criticize and minimize without knowledge and thought. People that say that an outfit will not disqualify for a job, have never seen how many people don't make the second round, just because the interviewer finds the attire inappropriate.
DeleteAnd just because, I will now go and purchase something from Smart Works.
Regards!,!
Again we are in agreement!!! Happy shopping π€
DeleteYou talk about being entitled but do women really have to wear Nonoo, Manolo, Ralph Lauren, so their attire would be considered appropriate and it would get them a job?
DeleteNo one here says people don't need help! Its good when we can help. But promoting friends, high prices.. Most working class women can only dream about this kind of clothes but they are no less because of that!
--Maria
Hey Maria, working women don't have to buy these outfits, they receive them for free, thanks to other women that can afford the clothes and are willing to pay the prices because they know that it's for charity.
DeleteVery simple concept, you buy a product knowing that half will be donated, and nobody is saying that if you don't wear expensive clothes you are less, quite the contrary.
Sorry if it looks like a very clever way to make bigger sales under the name of charity. Why so? Because instead of selling just 1 dress/blouse/jacket, the buyer buy/pay for 2; get one for herself, the other for charity. Win-win.
DeleteSo when the buyer has paid for both of the outfits, then they end up making a profit for the company but how the company contribute?
Lets hope women won't meet another woman in the same clothes for their job interview. Or when I buy, people will probably think I got it for FREE :D Well, I've never received any free gifts like this and have worked for everything I own but naturally there are people in real need and its good if we can help them.
So no worries. Everyone wins. OMG!!
-- Maria
@Maria. 'So when the buyer has paid for both of the outfits, then they end up making a profit for the company but how the company contribute?' The stores contribute floor space to display the clothes, their employees to serve the buyer, and all the other expenses that go into servicing that building. Space is rented by the square foot, and could have been used to promote their own brands. Incidentally, the collection is too small to generate the kind of profit that will keep their accounts in the black for the season. In which world do other people wonder if someone got their outfit for free?.. and as is customary with the entitled, everything comes back to I, I, I. - Lara
DeleteShe looks casual and pretty but I don't think her pants fit her well, and her hair would look better without all the extensions imo
ReplyDeleteCan you tell me how you figure her to be wearing hair extensions?
DeleteIt is a good cause. Personal preference, I don't care for the brown belt and shoes with black trousers. But I love a classic white shirt and black pants combo.
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What a Smart (no pun intended) way to promote your friend! This smells very much like Meghan’s way of saying “thank you” to Misha Nonoo for introducing her to Prince Harry... oh well, the world has not come to an end after all.... the struggling working class jobless women will continue in their daily struggles, with or without white Smart shirts that cost £125, that’s the brutal reality folks! MTZ
ReplyDelete���� you put it in a nutshell :)
DeleteThe economic interest of Meghans friend adds another aspect to the "altruism" of this project.
DeleteCoralie, please go take a hike.
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I think there is some confusion about the purpose this initiative. Rather than these items being for purchase by women in need, rather the idea is that for each item sold, a like item will be contributed to Smartworks. Having worked with long term unemployed people in Australia, I find Smartworks to be a very worthy charity and while I respect the intent behind the initiative, I do think the execution could have been improved. Rather than contributing to the unsustainable production and consumption of fashion items, I would have preferred to see something simpler such as encouraging individuals and designers to donate items to the charity. This would be an initiative that could continue, rather than the capsule collection which will only be sold for 2 weeks. Whilst I think the duchess has good intentions, I personally feel that sometimes she is front and centre rather than the charity itself (I concede that this may be unintentional). Sometimes her actions come across as a litle more "Hollywood" and glossy than what we are used to from the royal family.
ReplyDeleteFashion wise I think she looks great. It is a sleek and professional outfit which shows off how part of the collection can be worn. I particularly like the contrasting brown belt and shoes. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the multiple bangles, I find this look a bit trashy and impractical.
Skippy: I like Meghan's look smart business like. People are a bit over the hollywood thing;Take a look at Princess Mary styles herself on Hollywood fashion;as do many of the other Queens and princesses around the world.Well when paper bags are fashionable we will all be wearing them
DeleteA note on stacking bracelets--it is very on trend and has been for quite a while. It is also nothing new. Women used to stack bracelets back in the 1920-30s--there are some fun pictures online. It is another way to add interest to an outfit, especially a simple outfit. Bracelets look great stacked with watches as well. Of course it is all a matter of personal taste, but it is a look that I like. I stack bracelets, and mix metals as well. One more thing of note: I read that Meghan is wearing Diana's butterfly earrings. I can't help but think that Diana would be giving this endeavor her blessing.
Delete@Trishy: You do know that stacking bracelets has been done for centuries by tribal women on wrists, necks and ankles. We learned this from our parents' subscriptions to National Geographic. Dismissing cultural practices as trashy because you do not like Meghan?...SMH.
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Thanks for the info MB. I was aware of the cultural background of this. I personally don't like it in fashion today. I have friends who wear bracelets in this manner and it's not for me. I don't like the noise it can make and I think it can look over done. I don't dislike Meghan - how can I when I don't know her? I thought the rest of her outfit for the event was great. It's really nice to come on a forum like this and express an innocent opinion without it turning into something far greater than needs be.
Delete@ Trishy 'I personally don't like it in fashion today. I have friends who wear bracelets in this manner and it's not for me. I don't like the noise it can make and I think it can look over done.' Therefore.. it is trashy. Meghan is at the center of this discussion. Long gone is the purpose of the discussion as personal likes and dislikes are injected into the conversation about helping women who wish be spruced up before setting out on a job interview. M.
DeleteSmart Works is a wonderful cause, and the capsule collection has already been discussed on this blog. I think before commenting, when it is clear there is a limited understanding, it would be wise to do a little research about Smart Works and how the capsule collection will benefit the charity. It would be nice to see this thread stay positive.
ReplyDeleteWhat is nice about what Meghan is wearing is that the pieces are basics that can be worn any number of ways. A change of shoes, jewelry, scarf, jacket or sweater can make the pieces look completely different. They go from work to religious services to festive events to casual events. These are investment pieces that stay in the closet for years to come, not 'fast fashion' that looks dated in one season. Meghan has accessorized really well here, and differently than a lot of women would probably choose to. The choice of cognac shoes and belt instead of black gives this look so much more interest.
Meghan's look is simple and polished and more in tune with the group she seeking to promote. Some looks can be put together very cheaply indeed, but that should not be the first impression of an employer. Clothes worn by someone else look worn, no matter how pretty they are. Sure, no one should be discriminated against because of socio-economic position, race, religion, blah, blah, but there are subtle ways to do this in the world of work. Removing one of these factors cannot hurt. The shallow notion of those who reside in a place of privilege that the first paycheck can solve everything fails to take into consideration that a job away from home for these women adds expenses such as commuting and childcare. There are also standard household expenses such as rent, food, phones etc... and they may have even borrowed money to meet their expenses until they received their first check. Criticizing Meghan for approaching a problem from grassroots level and trying to help is very easy from behind a keyboard. Volunteering on the other hand takes, time, effort and a kind heart!
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Are the clothes going to be donated to Smart Works or is the collection going to be sold to raise money for Smart Works to buy the clothes or for women who use Smart Works to buy the clothes? I dont fully understand what the collection is about and would honestly appreciate some help here.
ReplyDeleteAs far as i understand it, when someone buys an item from the Smart works collection, one identical item is donated to Smart works.
DeleteThis means Smart works does only get the worth of the piece from the collection. The shirt might cost 45 € in production. It is sold for approx. 112 € (the equal of 125 $) So the shirt company does earn 67 € for the sale and donates 45 € pounds (the costs of the shirt) Wouldn't it be much more effective if the company does donate the whole 112 € to the charity? Do don't have even have to pay taxes for it because it is a donation. Scarlet Witch
DeleteThat is not how economics work, or taxes.. All enterprises have overhead, somebody needs to pay the bills, utilities, logistics, insurance etc., if it was as simple as you put it, we could end world hunger in10 days.
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Oh... I was under the impression that the "buy one give one" model of charity is not actually very helpful and ends up making a profit for the company. There's been research on this. It's why I dont like buying TOMS.
DeleteWhy not just donate the profit from the collection to Smart Works in a program that teaches the women how/where to shop for business professional/casual clothing? In my experience, going from budget shopping for casual clothes to having to purchase clothes for a professional office setting takes time and money.
I think this look is very bland. It is a common look with interesting brown accessories. What I don't like is that the trousers appears to be falling. Wrong size or bad tailoring?
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Well, the trousers don't even look good on the model.
DeleteShe is a mess.
ReplyDeleteJet platino with your hair, it was windy but the other ladies are not touching their hair.
ReplyDeleteThe pants are terribly ill fitted. And I just don't like her.
Nice start after Maternity leave. She looked very good. Black and white always a hit. It seems she has not lost all of her baby weight, like this she looks way better than super thin. Nice to see her back at work.
ReplyDeleteStyle chic, dΓ©contractΓ© qu'elle porte fort bien avec de jolis accessoires !!!
ReplyDeleteI really like this look, clean and classic but at the same time a modern by the brown/camel touch on a black and white look.
ReplyDeleteI really like it.
Kristy I really like the camel also! Something I will think about in the future!
DeleteThe white shirt is nice, always good, for business. But what does she have for problems with the hair? She always seems to be fiddling around the hair. I do not like the totally visible extensions look, for me it does not look regal in any way.
ReplyDeletewhat an adventure reading all the above comments!! Even if the cause is not dreadfully important, it certainly does not derserve criticism. Yes a good look can Indeed help in interviews.
ReplyDeleteI think she deserves to be accepted as she is, fiddling with her hair seems to be part of her personality. MaryT
"fiddling" with hair is part of having long hair NOTHING to do with personality.
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Good works and cause, but her hair doesn't look well-groomed.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 6:20, your comment is beyond ridiculous!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd I just don’t like her!!!! How old are you 12?
Was Meghan mean to you at the playground?
Now, now, after your tantrum you can come out of your corner and let us know with grownup words :-)
Thank you for addressing that. @6:20 was not even adult enough to sign his/her name, or better yet, bypass this thread altogether.
DeleteAnd how old are you?
DeleteEvery one can think what they want and take it or leave it as a grown up,well you have bug problems here.
Mina, what do you mean that I have bug problems?? How can you possibly know that someone has bugs??
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Very rude to tell me that!!
Marcia
The Duchess did an amazing job with her speech -- right on point for the need for women to have enough confidence to go out in the world world and feel good about themselves. She is reaching out where there is a real need and gives that boost that women need. We have a similar program in Los Angeles County, California where I once worked and I was proud of our results and the women we helped.
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