The Duchess of Sussex has given birth to her daughter, welcoming her baby girl on Friday 4 June. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have named the child Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor. The baby girl will be known as 'Lili' for short. Lilibet is Queen Elizabeth’s 11th great-grandchild. The Duchess gave birth on Friday morning in a hospital in Santa Barbara, California. Both mother and child are healthy and well.
Lili is named after her great-grandmother, Queen Elizabeth, whose family nickname is Lilibet. Her middle name, Diana, was chosen to honor her beloved late grandmother, The Princess of Wales. The Duke and Duchess have asked those who wish to send gifts, to instead support or learn more about organisations working for women and girls including Girls Inc., Harvest Home, CAMFED or Myna Mahila Foundation.
The name they chose really moves me-
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I hope you meant in a good way. Lilibet alone is beautiful. I'm happy for them. May they be blessed...
Delete@Unknown…. Yes I didn’t mean that in a good way despite my conflicting feelings about this couple. It’s a really lovely name and I wish her well.
DeleteCongratulations and blessings to M, H and Archie on the arrival of little Lili to the family.
ReplyDeleteHenry is officially a GirlDad! July
Congrats to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex! Love the names they chose, honoring the Queen and the late Princess of Wales. And Lili is an adorable nickname. 🎉💗👌🏾
ReplyDeleteAngelia
I don’t believe they chose the name to honor Queen Elizabeth. I believe it is an affront to the Queen, carefully calculated by the Sussex PR team.
DeleteCongratulations to the little family from Europe 🌻 🌞 ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
ReplyDeleteAthena
Que la petite famille reçoive toutes mes félicitations ; j'attends avec impatience de voir des photos du bébé !
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on a healthy baby. She is beautifully named. I love that Harry is honoring the two most influential women in his childhood. ~d
ReplyDeleteIt' s only their business.
ReplyDeleteThey are not royals anymore.
Miqauela
Agree..
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DeleteAgree completely
DeleteTotally agree. CC
DeleteWrong. Of course, they are still royals. They belong to the British Royal Family and hold the title of royal duke/duchess. The only thing they are no longer allowed to use or to be addressed with is "HRH". Having saod that, I move on to the subject of the name the little baby girl has been given: a move that was clearly expected, however, I think it not so well chosen because Princess Charlotte's two other names are Elizabeth, Diana. Who wants a cousin bearing nearly the same name, even when the Sussex girl will be called Lily. Why not Frances, which was Diana's second name? So much better, imho.
DeleteI agree wholeheartedly. I think it is presumptuous to use an internal term of endearment in order to look supposedly humble and honourable. Frieda
DeleteI think that they are not consistent in their decisions.
DeleteMarie Susan
These are the people who wanted out of the spotlight, so let's allow them their privacy.
DeleteCongratulations on the birth of their daughter. I'm happy for them!
ReplyDeleteBeautiful names, honouring The Queen and princess Diana. Lots of people already expected Lilibet and Diana, but with Archie we were surprised. This time the predictions got it right.
I wish their little family all the best in health, wisdom and joy and God bless them!
O and of course I hope we'll soon see a picture of the baby girl!
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ReplyDeleteI also think, like you, that it's pure business
with family membership in the royal family
Off course it is pure business
DeleteThey have already registered the name (domain)
Why always criticize ???
ReplyDeleteCan't some of you just be happy for them ???
I'm really happy for the familly and wish all the best to Meghan, Harry, Archie & Lili.
Congratulations on the safe birth of their baby girl. Lovely names chosen.
ReplyDeleteBest wishes to all the families on both sides of the pond.
- Anon 9:13
The birth of a child is always a joyous thing and I wish them all health and wellness. But honestly, I'm perplexed by the name. Harry and Meghan have been telling us for months that the family and organization that the Queen heads has treated them with racism, neglect, inflicted generational pain on Harry (re Charles' upbringing), and generally failed to support them forcing them to flee to America to save themselves. The tell us that this is their truth. Ok, fine. Then they not only name their child in honor of the head of this family/organization, but choose to use her most personal and private family nickname. Its confusing at best.
ReplyDeleteWell said, LilyBart! I totally agree with you.
DeleteRenee
Agree totally with everything that you wrote, LilyBart. It will take much more than these beautiful names to repair the damage, shock and hurt that Meghan and Harry have inflicted upon Harry's family.
DeleteI feel exactly the same. These two seek attention and go for anything that will pay the biggest bucks. it reeks desperation to earn brownie point from the queen and the family they happy to toss under the bus. so calculated. bt
DeleteTotally agree. And to honour HM the queen with an intimate name that eg her husband used, I am really surprised about that
DeleteThis is well said and I feel the same way.
DeleteChel
I too find it confusing ! Diana, was a given ! But, no nod to Doria's side of the family ! After all the revelations made, it was a surprise to hear they'd gone with Harry's family! Meghan even mentioned how close she was to her own grandmother ! Ana
DeleteI don't understand this gesture either and I don't understand what exactly they want. She said she didn't want to live any longer she wanted to end her life so difficult it was for her to carry all the burden of royal life. And now she honored it. I must've missed something.
DeletePurrr....The claws are out!!!. They made it clear during the interview that the racism remarks did not come from her Majesty or the head of the (family/organization) as you said. He has always had a very loving relationship with the Queen so why not name her great-grandchild after her. DSC you noted that the name has already been used once so what is wrong with that. I have 2 other cousins that have the same name as me but our first names are all different and we go by our nickname. No one person in a family owns a name and if Harry choses to repeat that name he should do so. That is a right.
DeleteThe BRF has a history of repeating names. The more senior royals are named after past monarchs and long deceased relations, with the exception of the name John (because we all know the poor little tyke would suddenly inherit the bad traits John had via the name). There wasn't any great outrage when the Queen's last two great-grand children were given Philip as a middle name. The warm gesture by both Eugenie and Zara was met with approval. Let's not forget the Queen was given the same name as her own mother! So much fuss over nothing!! As both Charlotte and Lili grow up, they will know just how important their grandmother was to their fathers, and the impact she had on the world. They will also learn the same of their great-grandmother, and what an honor it is to be named after each of them. Why so much hate over the birth of an innocent baby? This is a time to be celebrated. ~d
DeleteWired name, it’s a nickname for the Queen right?
ReplyDeleteWas das wohl an Einnahmen bringen wird ??
DeleteHow cynical: Was das wohl an Einnahmen bringen wird ??
DeleteInvictus
Congratulations!! Wishing the entire family many years of health and happiness.
ReplyDeleteI truly love the names they’ve chosen.
Cherry
nothing to do with fashion here.../W.W.
ReplyDeleteMany blessing to the Sussexes.
ReplyDeleteLovely name for the little one.
MM
Love the name Lily. Great way to honor Diana and the Queen. Lily and Archie go together nicely.
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a LilyBart The birth of a child is always a joyous thing and I wish them all health and wellness. Well said, but then, everything else is dredged up at the expense of this poor little girl.
ReplyDeleteHarry, is astute enough to compartmentalize the Queen or the institution as his boss (he had said this many times), from his grandmother as granny. It's the equivalent of not taking your work home with you. The awful hazing his wife suffered at the hands of the British press seemed to be tacitly endorsed by the silence of the institution. In the midst of all this, they both acknowledge that she was nice to them. Why does a total stranger feel that he is not entitled to name his daughter after her? The attention seeking 'dog whistle' is old try something new.
July
H and M are full of it! They are no angels in the mess with the RF they helped create! Are you all blinded by H and M’s hypocrisy, double standards, and contradictions?
DeleteMany blessings to Lili and Archie.
They only Ike to be private when it suits them. M
ReplyDeleteExactly, like getting your wife in and out of the hospital and settled at home with the baby in private, with the news revealed at their convenience. No need to tell anyone when his wife goes into labor. No circus outside of the Lindo wing.
DeleteTHAT is what private looks like. Any other time they have been seen involved one of their projects. The difference has been explained many times on this blog.
Marie
@Marie: Well done, well said.
Delete- Anon 9:13
A lovely name, especially calling their daughter Lili. That's a more unique name that will serve the child well in her lifetime. I hate seeing children straddled with a name they must use in school that is "out of touch" with their generation, or difficult to spell, just to satisfy a family member. My Welch father-in-law tried to do that to my son. But I held firm, as the birth mother and had a say in the name choice. No disrespect intended, but the family already has enough Elizabeths and Phillips in the family already. This was a thoughtful choice by Meghan and Harry. Long live their precious daughter Lil , the 8th in line to the British throne.
ReplyDeleteThose names are no tribute. Why would they pay tribute to a family that - according to them - caused them such great pain? Clearly, they´re trying to cement their royal status in order to stay relevant, and as such, it´s a very calculated move.
ReplyDeleteLet's not deceive ourselves. They were treated badly in the press and as H sees it by the family. No one has to take abuse at the workplace. There are are laws against that.
DeleteThe child's name was probably going to be Lili all along, and 'bet' was added to keep the family tradition and to recognize granny. They are doing quite well outside of the royal bubble without their influence. If being royal is all it took, the minor royals should be famous and successful beyond their wildest dreams.
Marie
Vanessa
DeleteMy thoughts exactly.
It seems to me an extreme desperate move to stay relevant and to exploit the BRF again in order to keep their titles.à
No titles, no/far less money, so it all sounds very calculated.
These two are beyond words.
P.
@Marie: Completely agree with you.
DeleteThey don't need any reason - or royal help - to stay relevant. They are creating their own brand of relevance with their projects, and kudos to them for doing that. They are not the schemers like dozens on this site like to think (and those dozens probably are vile schemers themselves to perpetrate such behaviour). They are probably in the best books with the BRF. Blood is thicker than water.
- Anon 9:13
Agree @ Marie
DeletePrince Harry learned about hurt feelings and broken hearts. He is looking for equal relationships. He doesn´t want blind allegiance. He does not need to be considered first, he as the backup of the BRF. Athena
What no photos of the baby; I bet she is as cute as. Elizabeth would have been a nice name; unusual that you would call a child somebodies pet name. Her Majesty loves children; it was so beautiful to see al the great grand children gathered around Prince Phillip and Her Majesty. Their Nanny will have her hands full.
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ReplyDeleteI was hoping Diana first name...
Would you like to be called Diana, If your Granny was killed? Joan
DeleteAs for fashion (this is a fashion blog, isn't it?), what a pity that we cannot see the colour, because of reasons not quite clear for the beholder. What stuns me as awkward each time when I see this pic is the fact that we see three persons, two bodies but only one face. To sum it up, no colours, no faces and nice dress of the only person who has a face. (-Ann.)
ReplyDeleteI agree. Black-and-white photos are mainly used for portrait pictures to emphasize a face´s expressiveness; photos taken outside or in nature on the other hand look kind of lifeless in black-and-white as is the case here.
DeleteIt´s quite symptomatic to release a photo that shows Meghan in focus and in charge and degrades everyone else to faceless support actors.
For the record: I´m not saying that they have a bad family dynamic (I think in the moment captured Harry was kissing his son´s head but we cannot see it from this angle). I just wonder why THIS photo was chosen for the press as it doesn´t do justice to most family members. One has to conclude that this is the image they want to portray, and it is one of Meghan in focus and in charge.
I like the name Lili, it goes well with Archie and it also goes well with the surname Mountbatten-Windsor. Lili is quite modern nowadays and everybody would still have understood that it is a nod to Queen Elizabeth. But I feel that using Lilibet, the very personal family pet name, the name with which the Queen signed her last farewell to her husband Prince Philipp, well I feel this is too much, they are overstepping boundaries with this. This name should have stayed with the Queen and I think they are not doing their daughter a favor with this. The poor little girl and woman later will be confronted with the whole story each and every time she hears her name and the unforgiving english press will not once write her name without giving the whole background story. I would have gone with Lili Diana Doria Mountbatten-Windsor.
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DeleteWait! Are you saying that she will be reminded by others that the farewell note on great grandad's casket was signed 'Lilibet'? How morbid?
1. The nickname was given to the queen by her grandfather and adopted by Philip.
2. The parents have said she will be known as Lili.
July
@July, no, this is not what I said and what I meant. Nothing to do with the funeral. Lilibet will be reminded throughout her life that she is bearing the very personal name of her famous grandmother. And that many people think that this choice of name was not a good choice. She will be asked how she feels about that in every single interview, it will be covered in each and every article about her. I understand that Harry and Meghan gave the name to honour Harry's grandmother Queen Elizabeth, but I predict the name will turn out a burden for their daughter.
Delete>>The parents have said she will be known as Lili.<< So call her Lili for heaven's sake. She will not be known as 'Lili'. She will be known as 'Lilibet' , you can call her 'Lili'. What a stupid thing to do! Seriously, Harry and Meghan are good in making simple things complicated and later complain about how complicated things are. People know the story behind the name and you can not take a story back that is out. The DailyMail will gladly bring up the story of her controversial name each and every time they write about Harry's family. Believe me.
@Beth: Stop projecting! You've catapulted a person who is a few days old into the future, giving interviews. OMG! What vision!! What line of work will she be in that will require these interviews? Aesop would be proud.
DeleteThis is what criticizing for the sake of criticizing looks like. There are millions of men in the world named Jesus. Perhaps Jesus too could not say his given name of Joseph properly (I am speculating, this is not a proven fact) if we are to put ridiculous notions of re-using family names on the table.
July
@July, as someone who has quite some knowledge in public relations I don't have to look into my crystal ball to tell you: Yes, Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor, daughter of Prince Harry, grandchild of the future King of England and grandchild of Diana, Princess of Wales, the most famous woman this world has seen whose name she also bears, yes, this child and later this woman will be of public interest. Or did you think with a name like this she will grow up unnoticed? And because of this expected public interest, I as a parent would not have chosen an emotional heavy loaded name. I as a parent would have gone with Lili - this is about all I said and explained in my initial post. I did so in calm and polite words. What in my statement triggered you in a way that you think you have to jump on me and even bring Jesus on the plate? It is getting weird! The only one critisizing and projecting is you.
DeleteOne topic of this blog post is to share views on the names Harry and Meghan chose for their newborn daughter. Some people like it, some don't. I actually like it, but I would not have chosen it for my daughter and I explained why not. Who are you to teach me what to think and what to speak? Please stay away from my comments, if all you want to do is stirring up things and twisting words. You are free to write your own comment and share your point of view.
And one wonders why they decided to leave ….. some of the comments here are just so ruthless, for those always looking to attack this couple. All of your judgements are based on what you perceive to be other people’s feelings, and no amount of statements from the sources changes the need to bash. It has been stated multiple times that their relationship with the grandparents was loving, why look for things that aren’t there?
ReplyDeleteI wish them many years of happiness and hopefully they will continue to ignore the haters.
Susana
All so true. Anything that contradicts their beliefs falls on deaf ears. The trolls are like vultures on a carcass for any bits of gossip, no fact checking necessary. ~d
Delete@Susana: Well said.
DeleteIt hurts my heart that so many posters on this site can be so malicious and cruel to two strangers, based on made up information and a bitter imagination. Can you imagine what they must be like in real life to their partners, families and children - that is if they have any? A living hell! Whatever happened to decency? Manners? I'm glad I don't know any of them.
Best wishes to H&M and their lovely young family.
- Anon 9:13
It's kind of pretentious to name your kid using the great grandma nickname that her husband affectionately calls her. I think there's a boundary you tread to leave that honor to her belated husband.
ReplyDeleteWhat's more they accused that same family ,which she's the head as being raist.
If they wanted should have gone with Elizabeth. Just my 2 cent. Lb
@Lb, your comment is precisely what personal bias and misinformation is all about.
ReplyDelete1. The Queen is called Lilibet by all her family members, including cousins and extended relatives, I remember King Philip of Spain addressing her as such on his public condolence oh her husband’s passing, so the way you present your criticism is clearly dramatized and speculative, and false.
2. It has been published by a statement from the queen’s biographer, ( hopefully this is true) that they asked for her permission beforehand, and I am sure that if she didn’t agree, her wishes would have been respected..
3. The duchess of Sussex didn’t call anybody a racist, she and Harry related a very disturbing incident regarding a family member/s concern about their unborn child skin color, citing this as one of the many reasons for their unhappiness.
4. People listening to this concluded that yes, this incident is racist and repugnant.
Unfortunately, people will continue to disparage this woman just because in your view she should have taken every insult, every injury towards her and child with a smile. All the attacks weren’t about whether she executed her role with more or less efficiency, she showed up with a smile just like everybody else while the nasty press was running stories about her being a shrew to Catherine - false- paying money to her toxic father in order to destroy her, calling her unborn baby names, and the list goes on.
And this malignant trend continues, as your comment proves, I don’t know this woman or any other family member, but the horrible comments about her and her family lack humanity.
CB
To above poster. It's not who can call her by that name. The name is uniquely hers so you honor her by reserving that uniqueness to her alone. Besides, I think my comment has fewer inaccuracies than the holier than thou pair accusations and truths...
Deleteprince Phillip relation to QE- Queen Sofía of Spain’s grandfather was the uncle of Queen Elizabeth II’s husband.
- Even if they asked for the queen permission she has no choice but to say yes. So there lies the catch 22. If HM decline you bet they'll be running to their favorite talk show host. We were denied a baby name.
- you don't need to know them personally. base on their performances the last few years most people with one active brain cell can make their own conclusions.
- you entitled your opinion and I am as well.
@CB: " It has been published by a statement from the queen’s biographer, ( hopefully this is true) that they asked for her permission beforehand, ..." The Queen's Biographer guessed, the Palace knows it and they say now that they did not inform the Queen (let alone asked for her consent to use her highly identifiable private family nickname). See https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57408163. I refrain from listing the attributes that cross my mind when considering this behaviour. (-Ann.)
ReplyDelete@anonymous 8:23, I am perfectly aware of that King Felipe is related to the British family that is why I mentioned it, by the way he is also related to the Queen not just her husband via Queen Victoria. Yes your comments are judgmental and sanctimonious.
ReplyDeleteCB
@CB, you can’t reason with people that simply feel entitled to judge others of whom they know nothing about, they conflate facts with rumor. I like you don’t know any of the subjects we see on these threads, I also don’t put any credence on the nasty stories published by the yellow press. What I do believe is that there is much more behind the decision of walking away from a life of privilege. The irony is that many of the same haters seem to adore P Charles that will inherit the throne after many negotiations and thanks to his mother’s generosity, a man that would have chosen his lover over the Crown, can’t even revisit the whole sordid story, but here we are….the irony is deafening.
ReplyDeleteTime cures all, even public perception and forgives moral turpitude if handled well.
MM
@ Beth: A name is a name is a name. Many people are named after older relatives either with the original or a shortened version popular with the family. The Queen is not a supreme being whose name should not be repeated, hence the reference to Jesus. The name now belongs to her too. It is her brand so she has to carry it with dignity and grace.
ReplyDeleteHopefully her parents will steer her away from a life lived 'in the public interest' which is code for cheap gossip.
You will be happy to know that the Sussexes have confirmed that they had spoken to the queen before giving her the name. This, after 'a source close to the palace' (the leaks continue) claimed that QE had not been consulted, basically throwing red meat out into the public to make H&M look bad.
July
@July: "A name is a name" - not quite, not all names are the same. If you name your child "Blue Ivy", maybe there are some who smile about it or don't find it a good name. But it is irrelevant, because it is nobody's business (except the child who has to live with it). "Lilibet" ist highly special, why ignore the fact that it is a very special name associated with one very special person? it is very much not simply like any other name and it is unlike any other name.
ReplyDeleteThen, you write: "Hopefully her parents will steer her away from a life lived 'in the public interest' " Well, by their choice of name they knowingly made a decision in the very opposite direction.
Then, you write: "They have spoken to the queen": This does not mean that the queen fully understood on the phone what she was being told. And "spoken to" also does not mean asking for consent.
And then, you write: "a source close to the palace': No, simply no. There is a huge difference between 'a source close to XY' and 'the palace source '. In this case, it was Buckingham Palace itself or else the BBC would have written differently (or not at all). I quoted that article already once so check it please. www.bbc.com/news/uk-57408163 . (-Ann.)
Good job. Tj
DeleteI am not here to bicker, only to say that the name "Lilibet" is not super special. I know a girl, in her teens now, named Lilibet. She is of Mexican decent, that is she is Mexican-American, and her family gave her that name when they legally adopted her at age 3. She was very small for her age and they had called her "Little Bit" almost from birth. That became Lilibet, legally. Queen Elizabeth and her nickname had no part in the naming of this child.
DeleteI also give the Queen more credit for speaking her mind than some of you do. She has not had any difficulty in telling Harry what his position in firm is when it is generally believed he would have liked keeping some of his duties, namely the military ones. It is widely reported she has vetoed a name Andrew and Sarah had wanted for Beatrice (Annabel), I would imagine because they were senior royals. The lesser royals seem to have the freedom to name their children as they please. She has certainly sidelined Andrew for his alleged criminal behavior. Harry has tremendous respect and love for the Queen. It is my belief he asked for and received permission to name his daughter Lilibet. ~d
The main issue is that they criticize the Royals one day, then, want to use their connections the next. They really don't want to leave. They just want to be the stars, so they set up a competing court. She wants to be Queen and have the adoration of the world. The queen has no choice but to say yes use the name as the alternative is another tv sit down explosive whining fest.
ReplyDeleteI dont think she wants more ulcer do she just placate. When someone can't get along with any family members on either side you know it's not the family. Shelly.
Shelly
DeleteI could not agree more.
These two are incosistent ,to put it mildly.
I refrain from saying more.
P.
Yada, Yada, Yada…. All these comments like any of you knows anything about their conversations, feelings etc., these 2 have become the new object of hate.
ReplyDeleteBTW…the BBC same outlet that cornered Diana with lies…. Well the Sussexes have already put their lawyers to work, the good all “ an anonymous sourced from the palace” does cut it anymore.
Peace out.
BC
Well, it turns out they bought the domain name of the daughter before queen approval of the name ... So much for tribute . ..jk
ReplyDelete.. couldn't agree more!....
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